New pole dance club must comply with 39 conditions
A CONTROVERSIAL new pole dancing club is set to open on the Barbican after Easter – but councillors have slapped 39 conditions on its licence.
Yesterday, at the end of a marathon three-hour meeting at the Council House, members of the authority's licensing committee announced they would back plans for the Pilgrims Sports Bar off Southside Street.
But that was only if the bar licensee, Richard Netherton, met 39 stringent operating conditions.
The conditions – put forward by Devon and Cornwall Constabulary – include admittance rules, details of access to the changing rooms and the installation of CCTV cameras in all areas where adult entertainment will take place.
One condition states: "performers may not a) climb onto the furniture provided for patrons; b) simulate sex acts; and c) remain in a state of nudity when they have completed their act."
At the end of the two-and-a-half hour behind-closed-doors debate, Councillor John Lock, chairman of the licensing committee, apologised for the delay and claimed it was "new territory" for the council.
Yesterday's debate marks the end of a long battle by the licensee to open the bar.
Devon and Cornwall Constabulary appealed against Plymouth City Council's decision to grant a licence variation to Pilgrims Sports Bar last August.
Police argued such a venue would attract potential trouble makers to an area where bar expansion is controlled.
So the force put forward a revised list of conditions for the licensing committee to agree.
During yesterday's meeting solicitors acting for Mr Netherton and the police, argued over points.
Solicitor Peter Durbin, acting on behalf of Mr Netherton, argued over a condition to cover up 'private parts' at all times and deny dancers from wearing or removing transparent clothing.
"There are other establishments in this city which do not have these rules," he told the committee.
"All these places are working without any of these stringent conditions – and without incident which is highly significant."
The councillors agreed to remove the clause about revealing private parts.
David Campbell, counsel for Devon and Cornwall Constabulary, also took issue with the entrance to the pole dancing bar, situated upstairs.
They suggested that either a separate entrance and exit should be built onto the street, or the premises close one-hour prior to adult entertainment commencing to enable the premises to be cleared.
Councillors opted in favour of the licensee installing a lobby outside the upstairs bar preventing people from entering unless allowed.
Speaking as representatives were invited back into the Council House following the deliberations, licensing committee chairman Councillor John Lock said: "We have thought long and hard and have come to this conclusion.
"It has not been easy, We have realised we are treading new ground.
"This is new territory for us. We hope that you can all go away happy."
But not everyone was happy at the outcome of the committee meeting.
Kathy Hole, former chairman of the Upper Barbican Residents Association, said: "I do not agree with it. The Barbican is supposed to be a family area."
Dee Harvey, the 69-year-old current chairwoman of the association, added: "You have to ask whether you want a nice family-orientated and welcoming area, or do you want it to become part of the night-time economy?
"I will not walk around the Barbican after dark now."
Mr Netherton refused to comment on the day's events.
But he did say the bar would be opening after Easter with a 'celebrity' guest conducting the duties.
POLE DANCE CLUB: The conditions
1. No persons other than the performers engaged in the approved
adult entertainment shall be in the licensed/designated area in a state
of undress.
2. The proprietor/director of the company is to
ensure that, prior to engagement, all performers for approved adult
entertainment shall provide documents of proof that they are over 18
years of age. Copies of such documents shall be retained on the
performers' file held at the premises.
3. No performer shall accept, or give telephone numbers from/to customers or exchange personal details with customers.
4.
No performer shall be allowed to work if, in the judgement of the
management, they appear to be intoxicated or under the influence of
illegal substances.
5. The licence holder shall provide a copy
of the House Rules to the licensing authority for approval. A clear
copy of these conditions and the house rules shall be given to all
performers and displayed at all times in or near the performers'
changing rooms. A clear copy of the house rules shall be displayed at
the reception and on each table and each bar area.
6. Performers
may not a). climb onto the furniture provided for patrons; b). simulate
sex acts; and c). remain in a state of nudity when they have completed
their act.
7. Performers will wear a G-string or similar piece
of clothing on the appropriate part of the body. Clothing shall be
neither transparent nor removed.
8. The two areas inside the
premises should be separated with the installation of a lobby. It
should be locked when adult entertainment is not taking place.
9. No entertainment involving nudity or entertainment involving any sexual content will be visible from outside the premises.
10.
Secure private changing facilities will be provided for the performers
(to include private toilet and shower facilities, the numbers and
design of facilities to be approved prior to installation).
11. No persons other than performers and authorised staff shall be permitted in the changing room/s.
12.
The approved adult entertainment shall only be performed by the
performers/entertainers and the audience shall not be permitted to
participate.
13. All entrances shall have clear notice stating: NO PERSON UNDER THE AGE OF 21 WILL BE ADMITTED.
14.
There shall be no form of physical contact between customers and the
performers during approved adult entertainment other than when the
performers introduces him/herself at the start of the performance and
again at the conclusion of the performance and again at the conclusion
of the performance or when a tip is placed in their garter/armband.
15.
There shall be no physical contact between the customers and performers
during the performance. At all times the performer(s) will keep a
minimum distance of 3 feet away from the customers. (Licensing
committee added that a "recognisable means of measurement" should also
be used to reflect the distance of three feet).
16. The premises
shall be equipped with closed circuit television installed so as to
cover all areas where approved adult entertainment will take place and
will continually record during these performances. Recordings shall be
made available only to a police officer or duly authorised officer of
the Licensing authority on request.
17. Separate toilet
facilities to be installed upstairs for patrons, the numbers and design
of facilities to be approved prior to their installation.
18.
Performers shall be provided with changing room/s within the premises
which shall be located so as to be separate and apart from the public
facilities.
19. No person other than performers and authorised staff shall be permitted in the changing room/s.
20.
The electrical system, including portable appliances will be inspected
and tested annually by a competent person to ensure their safety.
21. Doors and windows will be kept shut during entertainment.
22.
Suitable signage at the exit to request the co-operation of patrons to
make as little noise as possible when leaving the premises.
23.
Patrons will be asked not to stand around talking in the street outside
the premises or any car park; and asked to leave the vicinity quickly
and quietly.
24. A member of staff will be positioned at exits
particularly at closing times. (Door staff should be instructed to
encourage patrons to move on as quietly as possible).
25. A
specific taxi operator has been nominated for staff and customer use.
The company's telephone number is advertised to customers. The
operator, and all drivers, are aware that they should arrive and depart
as quietly as possible, should not sound vehicle horns as a signal of
their arrival or leave engines idling unnecessarily. In addition, staff
will leave as quietly as possible, particularly at night and early in
the morning.
26. A senior member of staff (manager) will assess
the impact of any noisy activities on neighbouring premises at the
start of the activity/entertainment and periodically throughout the
activity/entertainment and take action to reduce noise levels if they
are found to be excessive/distinguishable above background levels at
the nearest residential property.
27. Management will control the sound levels of the music/entertainment.
28.
Between 23.00 hours and 00.00 hours: To prevent entertainment being
intrusive, noise emanating from the premises will not be clearly
distinguishable above other noise 1 metre from the façade of the
nearest residential property.
29. Between 00.00 hours and 02.00
hours: Noise emanating from the premises will not be distinguishable
above background levels 1 metre from the facade of the nearest
residential property.
30. The first-floor bar will operate only between the hours of 9pm until 2am from Thursday to Saturday of each week.
31.
No persons under the age of 21 years will be permitted into the
premises. An acceptable form of proof of age will be required from any
person appearing to be under 25 years prior to their admission onto the
premises.
32. There will be two licensed door staff on duty at
all times; one to remain on duty at the entrance and the other to
monitor the premises by patrol or monitoring of CCTV at regular
intervals. At least 2 door supervisors shall be on duty in the part of
the premises used for approved adult entertainment when such
entertainment is being performed.
33. Admission will be to
members only. Full names, current address and proof of identity will be
required and a Membership Book will be maintained, which will have to
be signed by members each time they attend the premises.
34.
Definition of all references to striptease, nudity, lap dancing pole
dancing and entertainment of a similar nature shall be referred to in
these conditions as approved adult entertainment
35. An entry fee of £5 per person will be charged.
36. The occupancy figure for the first floor to be 75 maximum.
37. Groups of up to 5 persons only will be permitted to enter the first-floor bar.
38.
There will be no external advertising or leafleting of the premises or
any adult entertainment. They will cause no publication and display of
obscene and indecent matter to be displayed or distributed in
advertising performances being held at the premises. In addition opaque
glass will be installed.
39. The premises to be linked into the pub watch scheme and appropriate radio link.










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by Pole fit fanatic, Yelverton
Sunday, April 19 2009, 11:16PM
“Two sides to this, and I say this as a pole dancer who is also a chartered accountant! Some of us girls dance because it is bloomin' hard work and a great workout, not to be perved over.
On the flip side, I know the reaction I got from my ex when I told him what I got up to after I told him where to go (currently based in Plymouth) and know what he's like when he goes to lap/poledancing/strip bars with his mates and has his usual volume to drink.
The council could have 39 or 3900 rules, but people will behave how they want to. Give it a few months, let the novelty wear off and see how it all pans out. I guess it could go either way. If it works well with little additional disruption to the families living on the Barbican, then great. If it worsens their lives, then I would equally expect the council to take harsh action to put things right.”
by Alfie Mostaky, Barbican
Friday, February 27 2009, 3:28PM
“Bananaspi,
Congratulations, you sound very proud of your boy. But you are missing the point. It's not a case of associating this club to sex or the conitations of it, but the location. Personally i don't care if the performers are of a standard that makes the Royal Ballet quake or taking punters in to the back room for a bit of paid "extras" but the location sucks.
AND... there should be a 40th restriction applied. That being nobody who is drunk, ugly, fat or stupid should be granted entry. If nothing else, that will keep the members of the licensing committee from conducting "fact finding missions" (and probably most of the regular punters as well) LOL”
by Doris Flapper, Torpoint Lighthouse
Friday, February 27 2009, 1:42PM
“Bananaspi - intriguing that your son takes off his "cloves". And on which part of his body does he wear these cloves? Are they cloves of garlic or just plain cloves?”
by Bananaspi, Liskeard
Friday, February 27 2009, 1:26PM
“It¿s just unbelievable how people¿s perception of pole dancing and sex seem to be linked and this could be due to lack of education. My son yes SON, who is at university studying musical theatre, is a very good pole dancer. This doesn¿t mean that he takes off all his cloves or is promiscuous. However to enable him to give an outstanding performance, it does mean that he has to be very fit and talented. I can understand some people concerns but the answer is very simple. If you don¿t like it then don¿t go.”
by Alfie Mostaky, Barbican
Friday, February 27 2009, 8:40AM
“Mike,
I can understand that at 23 you are looking for a bit of variety, afterall, i know it dull as ditch water going to Chavish, oooops sorry, Lavish (which by the way is known as the Barbican Brothel by one of well known Landladies here LOL)
And Mike you should be able to have a bit of variety if you can't get it at home or your boyfriend doesn't mind.”
by Kathryn, Devon
Friday, February 27 2009, 7:15AM
“Robroy "We like the female form, we are born like that, it's our nature" ? Wait a minute, of course men are conditioned to appreciate females but not in this way. Most of the young girls performing will be young enough to be the daughers of the punters. How sick is that? How would they like it if their own kids were gyrating just to satisfy the fantasies of sad old gits? I don't believe the majority of young men will be that interested (judging by my own red blooded cousins). These places are for sexist, unintelligent dinosaurs - not normal ilntelligent men.”
by Mick, Barbican
Thursday, February 26 2009, 10:34PM
“Quote-"This establishment is only feet away from more than a dozen front doors to private homes"
Including mine mate, in fact I've got a clear line of sight into the upper pole-dance room, disgraceful!
(Now where did I put my binoculars?)”
by Mike, plymouth
Thursday, February 26 2009, 10:19PM
“i love the idea of a pole lapdancing club in the barbican. i am 23 and getting bored of going to the same places seeing the same people and this change of venue has given people another chance to try somewhere else out. great idea and cant wait for the opening.”
by Matelo, Plymouth
Thursday, February 26 2009, 10:05PM
“Something very very wrong with the councellors running a "Military City" Send your men off to die in Afghanistan at the age of 18 but it's too dangerous to go in a Lapdancing club until you are twenty one. Time some of these narrow minded fuddy duddy's got a life and swap the rules let the 18 year old go into the club but don't allow them to go to war until they are 21”
by Alfie Mostaky, Barbican, Plymouth
Thursday, February 26 2009, 9:46PM
“Thanks a bunch to the licensing committee and the city council for granting permission for this place.
I hope this place is a great success and the next one they open is only a few feet from your front door (like this one is from mine)
To be clear hear, I don't object to lapdancing or poledancing clubs (hey, open a legal brothel, makes no difference to me) BUT have some common sense over where you grant permission for such businesses. This establishment is only feet away from more than a dozen front doors to private homes. I almost wet myself at the clause that customers would be "asked" to leave quietly! Get your hides down to the Barbican now and witness for yourselves the noise and disruption when he bars chuck out.
Thanks for devaluing even further already plumeting property prices.
So for the jokers at Plymouth City council I am going to raise my own private protest and stiff (no pun intended) the council for more than £4000 in commercial business rates and leave the city. Nice work you bunch of halfwits. I'll send you a postcard.”