Argyle promise to be tough on racists

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Wednesday, February 08, 2012
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PLYMOUTH Argyle will slam the Home Park gates on fans found guilty of using racist language.

The Pilgrims are reacting swiftly to emphasise their stance on discrimination in the wake of Saturday's anti-gypsy chanting during the home game with visiting Southend United.

One person was arrested in the League Two fixture for alleged racial abuse following complaints from concerned and sickened Argyle fans.

But there was also sporadic mass anti-traveller chanting, believed to be directed at the Shrimpers' French-Tunisian defender Bilel Mohsni.

Southend have already had one high-profile Romany gypsy on their books – Freddy Eastwood, while Essex has, through docu-dramas on TV, attracted a reputation for traveller groups.

The game was always set to be a 'spicy affair' as former Argyle manager and now Southend boss Paul Sturrock had predicted to Herald Sport beforehand.

But Sturrock's feelings rested on it being his first return to Home Park since Argyle's second, successive relegation, and his side's and struggling Pilgrims' need for points.

The match ended at 2-2 after a spirited fight-back from Argyle who scored twice in the last five minutes through strikers Nicky Chadwick and Alex MacDonald.

Argyle are at home again next Tuesday (February 13) when Barnet will be the visitors and the host club are likely to give supporters a reasonably gentle reminder that discrimination of any kind is not welcome and nor will it be tolerated.

The proscribed forms of discrimination say the Pilgrims, include anti-homophobic, sexist as well as racial chants.

And in a thinly-veiled warning the club say they will exclude any perpertrators found guilty of banned behaviour.

The 'unequivocal message' read a club statement, 'embraced by everyone at Argyle and connected with the club' is that 'racism has no place in football, no place at Home Park' and 'no place in Plymouth'.

A spokesman for the Pilgrims told Herald Sport the statement was intended to be a useful reminder to fans that Plymouth Argyle are 'proud to be a family club' and, as such, will 'operate a zero tolerance policy on 'unacceptable discrimination'.

"As a club," the statement read, "We (Argyle) have always embraced players and supporters of many nationalities and creeds – this is our heritage and our legacy.

"Prejudice and hatred simply do not mix with supporting our team. "We have excluded people for racist behaviour previously and will have no hesitation in taking this action again."

A 33-year-old man was arrested on suspicion of racially-aggravated harassment and later bailed until March 8.

ARGYLE reserves claimed a 2-0 victory over host club Cardiff City yesterday.

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  • Profile image for realist1955

    by realist1955

    Monday, February 13 2012, 10:50AM

    “this racism stuff is a one way privelage,when did you hear of a white man claiming racism against him,no never! it would never make the news would it!”

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    by GreenGOM

    Thursday, February 09 2012, 6:29PM

    “You people can't hide behind the word banter as if it excuses it. Racism and homophobia are disgusting and every effort should be made to ban them.
    COYG”

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    by ArtyJames

    Thursday, February 09 2012, 11:05AM

    “Well said Chris. And SensibleGreen, you have just disproved your name. Hilarious, well done.”

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    by sensiblegreen

    Thursday, February 09 2012, 10:13AM

    “An Irishman turned up at Ascot race course with a horse-box. A stable hand opened it up and said, "There's nothing in there, it's empty." Paddy replied, "Yeah I know. I've brought the non-runners."

    Conference league lol”

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    by Chris75

    Thursday, February 09 2012, 9:03AM

    “Completely agree with 'ArtyJames', and sadly not surprised to read the other comments, decrying 'political correctness' and insisting it was all just harmless banter. People seem to have forgotten that the basic principle behind 'political correctness' is that you cannot just say what you want to/about who you want, regardless of how offensive it might be. And it not for you to decide whether something you say is offensive or 'just banter', because you have no idea how your words make that person or group of people feel - you have no right to decide on their behalf whether they should feel offended or not. Some of you are saying that the footballer in question took it as banter, but you cannot be sure of that, either. He may well have had to put up with this kind of chanting for years, and so just tries to get on with his game. Remember Zidane?? For years, he had to put up with racist chanting from fans and derogatory comments from other players, but just played on and let his football do the talking - he didn't 'look offended'. Then what happened?? In the World Cup final, one racist and derogatory comment too many and he finally snapped. And just look at the number of incidents of racist chanting and comments on Twitter recently - Ameobi at Newcastle, the Oldham player who ended up in tears at Anfield, etc. It is NOT banter, and yes, that DOES include chanting and comments aimed at gypsy/traveller/Romany players. Even if the person the chanting/comments are aimed at ISN'T Romany, gay or whatever, the effect can be the same. Did any of you read Greame Le Saux's comments last week about how having homophobic chanting aimed at him throughout his career affected him, even though he wasn't actually gay?? Some of you need to excuse your chanting and comments as 'just banter' so you can continue justifying your own prejudice and bigotry. And as someone else has said on here, do you really need to sink that low to support your team?? Oh yes, and the argument that somehow it's just 'all part of football' - well, shouting monkey chants and chucking bananas on the pitch used to be 'part of football', but would you do that/justify that now??? Wise up, man up, and grow up. As for Argye - well done on coming down hard on this. Now let's sit back and wait for the oh-so-predictable tirade against my comment, and me being accused of being some kind of bleeding-heart lefty liberal blah blah whatever.”

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    by ArtyJames

    Thursday, February 09 2012, 8:47AM

    “No Ivy, but that I reserve the right to be offended in the absence of others (or Others, to go all Lacanian on your a*se). I remain offended by Irish "jokes" even in the absence of my wife.

    The only "load of rubbish" here is the (sadly) backward-looking, pre-enlightenment attitudes prevalent in this city. Sad because there is so much potential for Plymouth to be a forward-looking avant-garde city in so many senses of the word.

    OK, I'm not rising to the bait any more (you're all joking really aren't you?)

    PS - Never had a negative rating before, it's quite exciting...”

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    by helterfc

    Wednesday, February 08 2012, 11:33PM

    “Well, I'm all for anti-homophobic chants. Not certain the Herald expressed what they intended.”

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    by ivyargyle

    Wednesday, February 08 2012, 4:59PM

    “Arty - so your premise was that the stand was full of "travellers" who would be offended is it ?

    What a load of rubbish !”

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    by ArtyJames

    Wednesday, February 08 2012, 4:44PM

    “Ivy. I was there. I could see and hear how it was meant.

    On another occasion I was sitting in a pub with my wife (who is Irish) with a group of people who started telling "Irish" jokes (i.e. the "joke" being that Irish people are stupid). It was meant lightheartedly, as 'banter' perhaps. It didn't prevent my wife from being, quite justifiably, offended and upset by it.

    The point I was making was that one person's banter is not necessarily seen that way by another. Even if the player concerned did not take offense, does not mean that others should not either.

    I have a friend who knows me well enough that I can make jokes about his homosexuality (and, equally, my heterosexuality), and that I can know that he will take it in the ironical sense in which I mean it. I would not make such jokes in the vicinity of those I do not know so well in case they may be offended.

    I guess it comes down to sensitivity. Or is that a masculine enough trait to display on the football terraces?”

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    by ivyargyle

    Wednesday, February 08 2012, 12:39PM

    “This issue is clearly being commented on by some people who weren't at the match. This particular incident was harmless BANTER, not banter disguised as racism. You had to be there and see the humorous behaviour of the crowd and the reaction of the Tunisian ( not Romany ) player concerned to understand that.”

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