Bid to breathe new life into the bottom end of Plymouth
A MAJOR retailer is in talks to open an outlet in the defunct Woolworths store, sparking fresh hope for the future of a troubled area of the city centre.
The new business has not been named but is described by one industry insider as a discount shop although others have said it is a "blue-chip multiple retailer".
If the deal goes ahead it could help revitalise the lower New George Street area which has been hit by a wave of shop closures.
The new store would not use the whole of the 180,000 sq ft, two level Woolworths site which has been empty since the retail giant collapsed in January 2009. Instead it would create a 15,000 sq ft ground floor shop only using the New George Street entrance. Agents marketing the building say there has been no interest in the Cornwall Street side of the vacant property.
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The stretch from the former Woolworths, once earmarked for a £40million skyscraper development, to the closed down Derrys store, has suffered the fall-out from a decline in retail fortunes nationally.
The strip has lost stores at one time occupied by famous brands including Currys, the Officers Club, Game, Hawkins Bazaar, and, in a 49,000sq ft unit, TJ Hughes.
Derrys, still owned by the Co-operative, is looking for someone to take its 139,000sq ft of floor space over five stories, and the shut Nectar restaurant covers another 5,700sq ft in the same block.
Yet the area is attracting interest and even one store, Shoe Zone, moving out of its unit, is only relocating to the larger former Currys store a stone's throw away.
And city centre manager Clint Jones said: "That strip still has the potential to be a vibrant shopping area. It's not all bad news."
He said a potential tenant for Woolworths was "really good news".
And he stressed that, unfortunately, empty units were inevitable under the current economic maelstrom hitting retail.
But he added: "There are moves to let them."
He said he has been approached by people "expressing an interest" in the Derrys and TJ Hughes buildings, both for retail and non-retail use.
He stressed: "The agents and landlords are actively managing the premises. We are managing this. It's not just happening to us."
And he said that the closures suffered in New George Street were all national chains and added: "Locally we trade well."
He said: "It looks worse than it is. It's the size of those units that make it look worse."
The Woolworths building was one of 807 British outlets which shut when the store went into administration with debts of £385million.
A year later Liverpool Victoria Asset Management Ltd (LVAM) submitted a proposal for a 23-storey student-flat skyscraper to be built on the site.
But, last year, The Herald revealed the plan had been thrown out by Plymouth City Council even though it had already been given conditional outline approval.
That condition was a Section 106 legal obligation involving a contribution from the developer of £327,000 to mitigate the impact on "transport, community facilities and health facilities", which was never signed.
LVAM told The Herald it intended to submit another plan, but nothing has been lodged and LVAM was last year acquired by investment firm Threadneedle, which was unable to confirm any plans for Plymouth.
With the development plans unlikely to proceed, the store is being actively marketed.
Ryan Kennedy, of Capital Retail, which is marketing the Woolworths site, confirmed talks were ongoing with a prospective tenant and an offer had been made.
The property consultancy's website describes it as coming from "a footfall-driving, blue chip, multiple retailer".
But Mr Kennedy was not in a position to give a name and was unable to give a time-scale either for when the new occupant could move in.
He said: "It's in discussion but there is no commitment whatsoever."
Breaking up the huge store was the only way of getting a tenant, Mr Kennedy said, particularly as there had been no interest in the Cornwall Street entrance to the building.
"It's a shame," he said. "I would like someone to take all of it but there is no demand."
He added: "If it was my home town I would want to see it with an active retail frontage."
Ray Robins, chairman of the Market Traders' Association and Cornwall Street Shopkeepers Association, said: "That bit of New George Street does look quite bleak."
But he too has been approached by people wanting to open shops in the West End and said: "I'm not saying we are doing well, but we are not doing any worse than the (Drake Circus) mall or anywhere else in the country. We're holding our own."
But he added: "What we need in this end of town is some form of anchor store.
"If John Lewis came into Derrys rather than Exeter we'd have no problems."
Olly Waters, manager of Shoe Zone, however, is convinced there is a future for lower New George Street.
The retailer is moving a few doors to the empty Currys plot in July – because it's bigger.
And Mr Waters said: "There's no way we'd move up town. The customers at this end of town do not venture up and Drake Circus customers do not venture to this end.
"It's a bloodbath out there for retail at the moment, hard for everyone," he said. "But we have a good customer base."
Lee Spencer, at the neighbouring Discount Store, said it will be shutting in the next few days, but said another tenant is due to occupy the space.
He blamed high rents and, particularly, business rates, and the lure of the mall.
"The town is going up the top because of the big centre," he said. "The multi-nationals are going into the mall. Either that or out of town."
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Comments
by treacleUK
Thursday, June 21 2012, 1:22PM
“Knock it all down and build a massive Ikea!”
by Plymouth Tea
Monday, May 28 2012, 4:23PM
“Knock down the bottom half of the city and build a nice park in its place, simple. We dont need all this space for shops. Online shopping is where its at. Lets get rid of these £1 shops that make the place look untidy.”
by Arfurmo
Monday, May 28 2012, 8:28AM
“I find myself agreeing with NiKgee with regard to councils being duped by supermarkets costructed on out of town sites, especially now the big stores are moving toward selling anything and everything besides food. putting paid to the specialized shops, shoppers were so familiar with. It's still going on with small communities out of town having two three or four supposedly referred to super markets stuffed down next to your street whether you want them or not. What sort of return does council receive for such a multiple of stores being set up where and when it suits. And what it will certainly lead to as we saw in Mutleybesides student accomodatio. Every other outlet a Pub or Restaurent and the city centre like Union Street and Mutley with increased drunkeness, crime and violence the order of the day--and night.”
by Peter20113
Sunday, May 27 2012, 4:16PM
“What! a negative comment about the dockyard museum! Some advertising and it was a great day out!”
by graham11
Sunday, May 27 2012, 12:13PM
“Nice to see some sensible comments about the run-down shopping centre. I expect the council will act as usual by increasing parking charges and sending out more traffic wardens to fill the gap left in rental income.”
by hstmtu4000
Sunday, May 27 2012, 11:10AM
“As you say Peter20113 for too long all Plymouth had to do was sit back and let the taxpayer pour the money in via the MOD and it has produced a certain mentality because everything was handed to Plymouth on a plate.Until the 1980s we were always relatively well insulated compared to elsewhere from the wider economic chill winds when they blew,but not no more.Plymouth has been "sleep walking" into economic trouble ever since with the result that we now with have no airport and an uncompetitive rail link.The A38 dual carriageway built in the 1970s at least saved us from complete economic obscurity in the 20th century but its not going to be enough in 21st century when you see the huge sums of money that are and will be spent on transport improvements elsewhere in the country (mainly rail).I went to Barnstaple on the train yesterday and overheard someone from Truro whose friend wanted to buy a wedding dress say "We will have a look in Truro and if they have nothing we will go to Exeter".No mention of Plymouth, and that why Plymouth city centre is struggling it cannot attract the more affluent shoppers from the wider Devon and Cornwall anymore that it once used to as they now choose to go to the much improved Truro or Exeter for their shopping needs.Even Barnstaples shopping centre as I found yesterday puts Plymouths to shame.”
by LordorNothing
Sunday, May 27 2012, 11:05AM
“janerbloke....OMFG..thats twice in the last 5 mins ive read one of your comments that i agree with!!!....i would add truro to that list as well.
Anyway...
i was going to say about this news,...after being in southampton recently and witnessing a HUGE development of purpose built student accomodation that must have been the size of the whole west end of the city centre, perhaps that is the way to go? using a PFI it would attract investment with no risk, reduce the need for houses in residential areas to be converted, possibly bring in anchor shops/offices to underpin the structures who would pay business rates!
it may turn that end of town into a small student city, but it must be better than whats there and not being used, also i like the idea of including a purpose built library, art gallary and museum extension?
the reasons for lost custom is varied, but plymouth has to move on and fast before its too late.”
by Jannerbloke
Sunday, May 27 2012, 10:42AM
“It's all comparative. The lower end of town has its Stonehouse clientele, the top half caters or Plymstock and Peverell and the plymothians with cash and taste shop online or in Tavistock, Exeter, Bristol etc.”
by kym1960
Sunday, May 27 2012, 10:07AM
“this council should reduce the rents on the shops at the bottom end of the town to half so as the shops there can new people to take them on and then when they do it will also make more jobs for the people and also to help the other shops they should reduce the rent off other shops by 15% .a shop that is empty brings in no rent a shop rented out at half the price brings in some rent and makes jobs simple ?”
by newplymouth
Sunday, May 27 2012, 9:27AM
“Cheers Ship Meteron!
Keep smiling!”