More CCTV cars to hit Plymouth streets to crack down on motorists

“I am against this intrusive car. Typically, the Nanny-like Council is trying to punish instead of educate, and the ordinary road users are always at fault, not our 'shining example' local bus service and its reckless drivers.

3-5 days ago, I saw an impossibly overweight CityBus driver throw his half eaten burger out the window, into the bus lane. But this is acceptable.

2 days ago I watched in disbelief when no less than 8 buses, up Royal Parade, double parked, didn't indicate, pulled out into me and other riders and drivers, with ne'er a glance in the mirror or over their shoulders/out the window - nothing.

https://http://tinyurl.com/9zjwx74 Try this on for size. I was 'lucky' one day to catch an errant First Bus driver come within a foot of causing a serious incident. Details are in the description.

This city's Councillors cast their fair share of stones within their own glass houses. What we need is better management, not increased taxes because they can't manage a few wayward road users. Yes, they shouldn't use the bus lanes - these normal drivers - but many of our bus drivers ought not to have their licences, just like our dangerous, speeding taxi drivers - especially Excel Cabs who have turned up on our streets recently.

This Council wants to bring in more of these controversial, legally exempt, invasive, rolling islands. Do it, and I'll go out of my way to pursue these people and catch their illegal activity, the same with our lovely bus drivers. How do you think they'll respond when they're on camera, caught committing an offence!”

“I wonder if these camera cars will do something about the repeated parking outside the Copthorne Hotel on Western Approach. The hotel regularly allows its guests to park on the pavement, and allows vehicles visiting the hotel to block the dropped kerb. It's fine if you can walk, but anyone in a wheelchair is often either blocked from walking along the pavement, or are forced to move out into the busy dual carriageway road.

A local disabled activist decided to take matters into his own hands. http://tinyurl.com/crql92d

The hotel's response? To slander the individual: http://tinyurl.com/c9qfhuy”

“Enforcement Summit 2012: 6th Annual Conference & Exhibition

The pros and cons of camera cars
ANPR-equipped camera cars have become an important part of many local authorities' parking enforcement armouries. They provide a mobile platform to tackle dangerous and inconsiderate parking outside schools and in bus lanes.

Mike Artherton, parking & CCTV manager, Plymouth City Council (Invited)


http://tinyurl.com/c5bbd3n”

“if anyone gets a parking ticket from PCC...challenge it and simply quote;

Bill of rights Act - 1688

"That all Grants and Promises of Fines and Forfeitures of particular persons before Conviction are illegall and void."

and ask...are there changes to the Bill of Rights which Parliament are not aware of?

They will / MUST respond with;

Dear Sir / Madam,

Due to an administration error Your PCN notice has been cancelled.

Your all welcome...

:)”

“this can only be a back door tax on the residents of Plymouth because if it did not make money for the council where are they getting the money to buy or rent the cars from?
Would they that are pushing this through do this if they had to pay to park? As these are the very persons that receive the highest payments from the tax payers BUT DO NOT PAY TO PARK WHEN THEY GO TO WORK LIKE MANY HAVE TO THAT WORK IN THE CITY CENTER AREA.
We would not need these cars if the council house car park was made a fee paying car park, you only have to see at weekends and evenings and when there is very little council meeting taking place how many cars use this car park which can on ly be accessed with a card that lifts the barrier to gain access to it.
Every one in this car park out of hours are defrauding the council of revenue the last lot were just as bad.”

“would the council still use the "Spy Cars" if they made a financial loss? i doubt it, safety my ar-m”

“I have use of the bus lanes as a taxi driver and the worst culprits of blocking them are the buses themselves. Try going along the bus lane on Royal Parade and at some point it will be blocked by a bus taking on passengers which can't get into the curb.

As for the camera car. I saw it in the pedestrian area at the top of town recently. The sign clearly says "no motor vehicles"

No motor vehicles means NO MOTOR VEHICLES, including camera cars!”

“Good, maybe they could check Pendeen Crescent in Southway and book all the council vans parked on the pavements.”

“Oh please what do Plymouth people really want from life?

If you dont flout road traffic regulations, ie parking in wrong places and blatantly disregarding bus lanes then you have absolutely nothing to fear!!!! It is really that simple!!!

On the fact of bus lanes, when will you people wake up and smell the coffee?? Climate change is happening as a result of us ALL sitting in our cars spewing out fumes, which will eventually lead to climate change, increased sea levels and a dire future for generations to come!!! But the attitude prevails 'as long as Im alright JACK!!

Buses could be a true alternative to using our private cars if the government could be bothered to actually regulate services, so that I could get a bus at 5am in the morning to get to work, have routes that will actually take me to work, not be subject to price hikes in fares to line PLC's pockets and to have a ticket that i can actually use on any companies buses. I would then be more than happy to use them and would advocate the expansion of more bus lanes.

Outland Road is congested and why should a person who actually chooses to travel in a greener way than the car, be subject to a longer journey?

Bus lanes are not just for the use of buses either, the next time you dial 999 and expect me to turn up within 8 minutes even at rush hour, just remember that I probably used a bus lane at some point in the journey to get to you or your loved one. Im sure that would put things into perspective.”

“Just on a side issue, why do they pixilate the number plate out? If it's to conceal the identity of the car, the fact there is a whopping big camera sticking out the roof and stickers on the side and bonnet seems to me to be a big give-away. Or is it me?”