Campaigners stand firm over bike trails after heated meeting

“Imteresting to hear of the propsed Plymouth Parkrun being based at Plymbridge......for info....
Parkrun is a nationwide event that occurs every Saturday morningover a measured 5k.
A free event open to everyone.
The NT have given their permission for it to be based at Plymbridge.
The NT have given permission for these events throughout the UK, the closest being Killerton in Exeter.
Wonder how that falls with FOPW........”

“rest assured Finibobs i dont JUST want a MTB track end of.....i want it if its right and i believe it to be that.....
if it keeps the numb nuts...yes, i,m critizing the ones who go off track and disturb the woodland willy nilly then that has to be good eh?
Also it MAY well make the NCN a bit calmer dog walkers, kiddies on bikes etc etc...I LIKE MANY OTHERS GET ANNOYED WHEN A CYCLE SUDDENLY APPEARS FROM NOWHERE.....although that said it is a cycle path after all.....
Sorry that you believe i,m pro MTB and so obviously selfish and single visioned but i think you would find i,m open to negotiation unlike FOPW.....i believe the MTB track to be a good idea, an asset to the woods, a nice cafe for people to sit and enjoy a cuppa after a nice walk along the Plym......
see unlike certain quarters i,m one for getting on with everyone if i can.......
and finally i apologize if i offended you re family etc...and i trust you see i ain't all bad !!!!”

“I'm appalled that this was a heated meeting. I know it's been a cold wet June but surely the environment comes first. If people were cold they should just have just worn an extra layer.”

“finnibobs, re: 1969.

-I would suggest a re-write of the info boards in Plym Bridge that were put up in the 80's and are still opposite the big (plympton side) car park, the gate a little way along the road towards Wrigleys and the big wheel pit in the 'industrial' bit.

The NT sign states the following:
"Plym Bridge Woods was bought by the Trust in 1968 with money from a local appeal; Mainstone Wood and Plym Bridge Meadows were given to the Trust in 1988 by Plymouth City Council who also supoport the managment of the area."

PCC could'nt have got away with the 'liquidation' of what became wood park had it already been purchased by additional funds raised by local people: as one of the FOPW members pointed out recently on your own facebook page, the Council said (rather controversially at the time as I remember) that it had to sacrifice that part of Mainstone Wood to development innorder to be able to afford to give the rest of Mainstone Wood and the Meadow to the NT.”

“'Want to develope on it' Makes it sound a lot worse than it is. Its a cycle track. Many miles of which are down there already. Why not allow a professionally researched, designed and managed one be built? Its an ancient woodland that has always had human intefearance, and it still thrives to this day. I think the argument 'let this be built and more deelopements will follow' is getting a bit tired now. I would like some suggestions of what could follow? Kayaking perhaps? But then whos going to pay for any development into that!”

“64special1 I missed your comment at the bottom "somehow"


"my dear finnibobs, if you treat others with respect you,ll get it back.....but your head is so buried in self self self and dark places that yourself and the other FOPW come across as very selfish and wanton upon making decisions that affect the WHOLE of Plymouth not just the Mainstone Massive.......
I SUGGEST YOU ALSO READ THE ARTICLE.....

One campaigner said: "I'm opposed to all of it. The National Trust is well out of order. It was never formed to run a fun fair like what they're proposing. They were designed to preserve the countryside and the wildlife and that's what they should be doing."

NIMBYISM....AT ITS FINEST !!!!!

Mr Ainslie replied: "My view is that we've only got as far as we have by being strong and saying that we don't want these bike trails. If we compromise we are compromising our own argument."

LIES.......TO NEGOTIATE AS HE WANTED IS TO COMPROMISE AND NOW HE WON'T ......

Mr Ainslie said: "This will be a long drawn out affair I'm sure but tonight is a demonstration that we're not going away. About 100 people gave a very clear mandate in support of their position which is they do not want any mountain bike trails in Plymbridge Woods. However they would welcome money being spent on improving the facilities in the woods for current users and especially the disabled."

WAS NEVER AN OPTION..
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Arthur is misquoted a lot, as I was at the meeting. I think the "Nimby" arguement is wearing a bit thin, as is your negative comments that you just repeat and repeat over and over again. The "Nimby" arguement is dead in the water as the new proposal is nowhere near any houses. Saying it's for "Plymouth" is just a good way to try and make FOPW look selfish but who is really the selfish one's!! The only thing that you are interested in is a MBT end of! It wouldn't matter where is was as long as you got what you wanted. Plymbridge woods It is a ancient woodland saved by the people of Plymouth back in 1969 to stop it from being developed on. We are just carrying on the fight where they left off. The People of Plymouth put there own hard earned cash to buy those woods. They gave it to the Council who in turn gave it to the NT. The whole reason it was given to the NT was because they thought the woods were in safe hands, Now the NT want to develop on it. A bit ironic wouldn't you say !!!!”

“Very well said ^64special, Oh i hear "Old" "Nimby" comments very often and just wanted to put "Some" straight that we are not "all" of an older generation but thanks for picking me up on that :-) Your right only "one" in this discussion so your comment was very valued. I have made my own mind up thanks. Mummy and daddy are dead so no influence there. I am a lover of wildlife and nature and I made my own mind up about that, aint i a clever girl :-)”

“Finnibobs......why bring Ageism into it......i can see only one remark using the word "old" directed at one man alone !!!!

i,m hardly young but i MTB, Run, Walk as previously stated, we hold NT membership, i find the attitude of the FOPW as arrogant, rude and selfish....i dare to suggest that you have strong ties with certain people within FOPW given that by your own admittance you are young ish...( don't take much to work out also given the relatively new build of Mainstone et al.....)

Again i urge you to read the article and posts better and maybe try to comprehend rather than repeat what mummy or daddy rage about over their toast.....make your own mind up don't just worry about upsetting your inheritance.....”

“I'm not old as someone said that it is only old people are against the MBT. infact there are a lot of young people against the proposal, but even if it were just "old people", they do deserve a voice and the disrespect you seem to show towards them, is in my view quite disgusting!”

“I wasn''t around when the houses were built in the woods but i believe that the land was sold to save Plymbridge from being solf off to a private buyer!! Also Mainstone was built on 2 farms as were leigham. I wish people would get they facts right before commenting on things you obviously have no real knowledge of.”