Average adult in Plymouth is £42,000 in debt

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PLYMOUTH is being swamped by a tide of debt, sparked by the recession, says the city council.

In this financial year, residents with more than £73million-worth of problem debt have sought advice and counselling and the figure is expected to hit £100million by the end of the month.

This includes those who are having trouble paying their mortgages.

"The problem is people borrowing against their lifestyle, and then things change," said Darin Halifax, community cohesion co-ordinator at the city council.

"The most common problems are ill-health, marriage break-up and losing a job. Irresponsible borrowing from doorstep lenders isn't as rife in Plymouth as we thought it would be.

"You're likely to see debt figures coming down now because mainstream lenders aren't making such irresponsible loans," he said.

Mr Halifax and Pete Aley, the assistant director for safer communities, were giving evidence to the Customers and Communities overview and scrutiny panel, which is reviewing the way the council helps people avoid money problems.

Plymouth people were reckoned to owe about £6.3billion in total, including their mortgages, councillors on the panel were told. Of that, £1billion was owed in unsecured debt.

Based on approximately 150,000 people of adult age in Plymouth, the £6.3billion figure works out at an estimated £42,000 of total debt per person, including their mortgage. Unsecured debt works out at an estimated £6,600 per person.

The figures are for the last full financial year, 2008-09.

One household in every 11, which amounts to 18,000 people, has debts which bring the risk of poverty because of the size of their repayments.

About 12,000 Plymouth households are living in fuel poverty, which means they are spending more than 10 per cent of their net income on staying warm.

Since 2003 rising prices have forced up the fuel poverty figure, in spite of efforts to improve energy efficiency.

Mr Aley said the Plymouth Citizens' Advice Bureau had reported a 34 per cent rise in inquiries from people with debt and benefits problems in the past 12 months. The CAB, which is funded by the council, says reports of difficulties in paying off mortgages or other secured loans have shot up by 35 per cent.

More than 13,300 children and 10,200 pensioners are thought to be directly affected by poverty in the city, and Plymouth also has higher than average numbers of lone parents and people on Incapacity Benefit.

Mr Halifax said: "Most of our need for benefits and debt advice is coming from the west of the city, but there are pockets in the east where people aren't accessing the benefits they should."

The council commissions the organisation Routeways to give advice and run campaigns to target groups who are missing out on their entitlements.

"We've had letters from people who have used Routeways saying, 'For the first time I've been able to buy my son a new school uniform'," Mr Halifax said.

Cllr Andy Fox, the panel chairman, said that because of the recession 'there are going to be people coming into the position of needing help who have absolutely no idea about where to go.'

The council is trying to boost support for credit unions, which were praised by members of the scrutiny panel. It has now given funding and support to the City of Plymouth Credit Union.

Mr Halifax said there were about 12,000 people in the city using doorstep lenders, and only 1,000 using credit unions.

Cllr Peter Berrow (Con, Southway) said: "It's a worry when you see the adverts on TV for doorstep lenders, charging 2,500 per cent APR."

Cllr Patricia Nicholson (Con, Peverell) said: "We haven't moved on over the generations. It's the same as it always has been."

Cllr Nicky Wildy (Lab, Devonport) said: "People are being bombarded from all directions, so it's always going to be an uphill battle."

Mr Aley said: "Often hard-earned wages go on high-interest credit repayments, which means less of those wages are recycled within the city.

"Many don't feel the full benefit of a return to work, as they are missing out on their entitlement to tax credits and welfare benefits.

"Can we stop people getting into debt, rather than curing the problem later?"

The council would aim to commission face-to-face debt and money advice and encourage more use of credit unions as an alternative to doorstep lending.

Advice agencies should be made more aware of issues such as fuel poverty, he said, and targeted advice would focus on removing barriers to work. The aim was to help people to avoid debt, as well as helping those who were already in debt.

Mrs Nicholson said older people did not like filling in forms and the help they got from the Citizens' Advice Bureau was invaluable. She said it might be possible to offer help and advice through libraries.

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    by ME, plymouth

    Wednesday, March 17 2010, 10:05PM

    “Shouldn't includ mortgages everyone has to pay rent, well except those on benefits. My wages are certainly not going up. I either have to apy my bills or buy food I cant afford both every week. I have a mortgage, I work full time, I,m a single parent and I have claimed everything I,m entitled too. The only debt if you like is my mortgage so I,m not in debt put I'm still in a state because I cant afford the rising cost of food, bills etc etc life is just one big financial worry.......”

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    by fred, par

    Wednesday, March 17 2010, 8:20PM

    “And all because of the great british publics passion for paying over the odds for "properdee". Poor old "hard working families".”

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    by nation al, horrabridge

    Wednesday, March 17 2010, 8:13PM

    “I remember when I was a lad.
    We didn't have anything to eat and didn't know where the next meal was coming from. We had no heating or hot water, no cars, TVs or Wii's or mobile phones etc etc. But we were happy - why?, because we didn't owe anything because there was no borrowing beyond means like today.
    So if you want to be happy, sell off all your luxuries and get all your obese, spoilt, lazy children out playing.”

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    by One eyed Gordon can't count, Or add up

    Wednesday, March 17 2010, 6:11PM

    “And the only way out of this hole is to hype up property values yet again!

    The bubble was really worth trashing the future of your kids for wasn't it?”

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    by Anon-e-Muse, Plymouth

    Wednesday, March 17 2010, 6:04PM

    “You are havin a larf!!!
    "You're likely to see debt figures coming down now because mainstream lenders aren't making such irresponsible loans," This is absolute rubbish! The cost of living has inreased more than wages! Im guessing Mr Halifax won his Job Evaluation then? Please tell me how we are to pay out for the increases when we haven't got it....Oh yes....Go out and rob someone...Wait a minute...Thats whats the council and utility companies do to us! Oh and not forgetting all the students who are possibly going to pay even more for the tuition fees...It all adds up. (By the way...Students are our future! Don't knock them just because a small amount let them down!) Bottom line is the future is grim and the interest rates haven't gone up yet...They Will and it wont be pretty! Work it out...from the level now..add 2% to your mortgage, Can you afford it on your payments or landlords increasing rent to cover it? Beware there is more debt to come!”

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    by plymouth mum, plymouth

    Wednesday, March 17 2010, 6:02PM

    “Excellent may have to show this to my dear husband, as we have no debt i can think of loads i could buy £42,000 ching ching, cant beat them join them is my new motto”

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    by Rick O'Shay, zog

    Wednesday, March 17 2010, 5:48PM

    “Eric is NOT right.

    Mortgages are debt, and the fact that they are secured on a property can be meaningless if the value of the property has fallen below the outstanding balance on the mortgage.

    Anyone who has purchased a property in the last 10 years, and did not put down a large deposit, could well be in debt. Put it to the test by getting a valuation - you will be shocked.

    The other point about "secured" debt on property is the large number of interest only mortgages that have been sold in the last 10 years.

    How many people with those mortgages have set aside a savings vehicle to pay the mortgage off at the end of it's term? Very few.

    We've had the boom, and now we have got the bust.”

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    by Tom, tom, south hams

    Wednesday, March 17 2010, 3:41PM

    “Me, world, how do you survive on that must be hard, your average premiership footballer makes that each week. I bet you shop at lidl”

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    by Richard, Derriford

    Wednesday, March 17 2010, 3:06PM

    “Hang on..... £42k including mortgage, i wish, who the hell are these 150,000 people, must be over 60's.......”

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    by Darren, Plymouth

    Wednesday, March 17 2010, 2:40PM

    “Eric is spot on. It is meaningless to include mortgage debt in analysis like this. Apply the same methodology to other parts of the country and I would fully expect to see an average debt of two or three times this amount, based purely on the increased value of property.

    £42K debt, inclusive of mortgage borrowing does not sound like a particularly newsworthy problem!”

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