Don't give up fight
THE mystery surrounding the proposed positioning of the incinerator in Plymouth becomes ever more intense. We are being encouraged to think that this is a done deal. How convenient for the privileged few who are to prosper from this wicked plan that the general population should become wearily resigned to the idea and grudgingly accept that it must go ahead.
Yet every scrap of common sense is telling us, the common people, that it must not.
If all the waste of South Devon has to be burned at one site then the very last choice for that site would be in the midst of the most densely populated area available, alongside stores of nuclear waste. (Although one can well understand why the incinerator's proponents would wish this project, of such damaging potential, be protected from protest by high walls and locked gates, this can not be accepted as an excuse for putting it in the dockyard).
Yet at a meeting of just a few of Plymouth's councillors, voted into office by a minority of the electorate, a meeting from which the public were excluded, the decision to put this huge incinerator in the middle of our city, was waved through.
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How could this happen? Was Plymouth to be compensated handsomely for this blight on the city's future? Not at all, we are told that any energy derived from this incineration will be used by the Royal Navy, not so much as a 40 watt bulb's worth for the citizens who will be paying for this monster, in every way.
Financially, we are told, the incinerator will cost us £140 million to build. Why? Surely the building cost should be borne by the people who will prosper from it, not those who will suffer from it. MVV, the Royal Navy, and the population of South Devon, who intend to solve their waste problems at Plymouth's expense, are the beneficiaries. Let them pay for it.
We are being told it would cost £400million to break the contract, but if it is costing us £140 million to go ahead, quoting that £400 million is deceptive. It would cost us, even by suspect quote, £260 million. Why is the larger figure being bandied about?
If breaking the contract is so unattractive, then don't break it. There are other methods of proving the building of this incinerator impractical and or unlawful. It has been imposed upon us by a flouting of both democratic rule and the human right to health and safety. And now we have another tilt at democracy, from Labour this time, the report on the unstoppable incinerator is to be kept secret.
No government, national or local, can govern against the will of the people -when the people are unbowed by political mismanagement and make their wishes crystal clear. Remember the poll tax?
B MERRIOTT
Plymouth
Comments
by Mark2Plym
Saturday, September 15 2012, 12:21AM
“The incinerator is where it is because the Navy gave MVV
them very cheap terms. For cheap heating for the base! Ps Irene the total heating costs for the HMS Drake is about £500k a year, over 25 years 12.5 million. Approx what % of 233 million it will cost the taxpayer in PFI funding is that also the heating before came from the MOD vote?”
by b_mused
Thursday, September 13 2012, 9:43PM
“irene61 - You know nothing about environmental issues, nothing about town planning, nothing about about effective recycling and modern waste disposal options, nothing about cost-benefit analysis and nothing about finance and economics. Plymouth City Council should be able to find a suitable career opportunity for you.”
by 9ab3jdr622l
Thursday, September 13 2012, 7:46PM
“irene61
Wouldn't your time be better spent drumming up support for your recently deposed leader in her quest to become Lord Mayor.
As she going to need all the help she can get you can't afford to waste your time on here posting stupid comments.”
by jessica91
Thursday, September 13 2012, 4:05PM
“By irene61
Again I say do your homework..
The incinerator is being built with PFI funding from DEFRA to the tune of £95m at todays values or £177m over the life of the project.
This to be paid back by future generations like a giant credit card.
There are cleaner and cheaper and safer alternatives to incineration.
The £400m might not be anywhere near the true cost,it is a known fact that the £400m takes into account PFI funding which if the contract was cancelled could have been credited towards the alternative waste solution. £400m minus the £177m gives a more realistic figure of £223m.
Still a lot of money but then you need to look at the savings on gate fees to MVV compared to the cost other solutions.
If only the contract was available and figures quoted could be verified..”
by MissAnthrope
Thursday, September 13 2012, 1:34PM
“I've reduced my waste output by only having a number two on a Friday.”
by RoundHead0
Thursday, September 13 2012, 1:08PM
“How honest of you irene61; YOU are, as you say, "wrong".
Time and time again you blast away blindly defending the most appalling decision in recent years (made by your beloved Viv and her selfservatives). Ignoring your political bias, because this is not nor should it be a political issue, not once in your history of hollow tabloid statements which attempt to justify the incinerator have you provided any sources to back them up. Commenters opposing the incinerator have (time and time again) provided many credible sources to support their opposition.”
by irene61
Thursday, September 13 2012, 12:07PM
“wrong on about every score: planning consent was granted at a public meeting, every local taxpayer will benefit from the savings made by selling energy to the MOD for 25 years, and the costs to us all would rocket if the contract was cancelled as some alternative would be needed”