Goths step out with a message of tolerance
ALMOST 100 goths and alternative dressers joined the black
parade and walked proudly through the city centre yesterday in
a mass show of solidarity.
The goths' message was made loud and clear – an end to
oppression against those who dress differently and they want
people to be free to be individuals.
The procession of alternative dressers, most clad in black,
moved from the Sundial at midday, up Armada Way, and around the
city centre.
The march was also organised in memory of Sophie Lancaster,
a young woman who was murdered simply for the way she looked.
She was brutally attacked along with her boyfriend, Robert
Maltby, while walking through a park near Manchester almost a
year ago. The couple wore gothic fashion and were members of
the goth subculture.
The march was one of a handful of processions across the
country yesterday for the SOPHIE campaign – which stands for
Stamp Out Hatred and Intolerance Everywhere.
Doka Chapman, one of the organisers of the Plymouth march,
kicked off the event with a rallying speech.
He told The Herald: "We wanted to organise the march to show
people that they are not alone if they are being picked on for
what they wear.
"It was also to remember Sophie. It was an excellent turnout
by many people."
Hayley Seeney, 23, from Stonehouse, took part in the march.
She said: "The march was not just for goths. It was for
everyone who wants to stamp out prejudice.
"It also gave young people more courage to be
themselves.
"There is a problem with the way people treat goths and
alternative dressers in Plymouth. We get a lot of abuse – I
have had stones thrown at my house.
"But marches like that help to raise awareness that things
like that happen. It was a fantastic event in Plymouth."










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by sheila, reality
Tuesday, October 21 2008, 12:11PM
“God, woteva Jamie aka Jools lol, you are just proving to the readers exactly what I have said below about being the poor old victim again, just thriving for attention. Also why have you used the plural again of ..... us ? ? ? Its only you on this forum Jamie and who is becoming extremely boring by proving again and again the comments that I have put below are true. You simply do not realise you are doing it because of your immaturity and mundane attention seeking. Do you also need to feel part of a group this much ! Is this because of your insecurity and non individuality like a clone ! ? Not really worth falling into your tit for tat nonsense is it Jamie as this is what you require due to the fact that you do not really know what to say. Just another clever way of what children do when they cannot answer the initial question. I'll let you get back to your serial killer book now, and to C.S............yawn zzzzz , wot exactly are you trying to say, does even yourself know !!! ??? zzzzzzzzzz”
by sheila, reality
Monday, October 20 2008, 7:51PM
“God, woteva Jamie aka Jools lol, you are just proving to the readers exactly what I have said below about being the poor old victim again, just thriving for attention. Also why have you used the plural again of ..... us ? ? ? Its only you on this forum Jamie and who is becoming extremely boring by proving again and again the comments that I have put below are true. You simply do not realise you are doing it because of your immaturity and mundane attention seeking. Do you also need to feel part of a group this much ! Is this because of your insecurity and non individuality like a clone ! ? Not really worth falling into your tit for tat nonsense is it Jamie as this is what you require due to the fact that you do not really know what to say. Just another clever way of what children do when they cannot answer the initial question. I'll let you get back to your serial killer book now, and to C.S............yawn zzzzz , wot exactly are you trying to say, does even yourself know !!! ??? zzzzzzzzzz”
by James, Plymouth
Saturday, October 18 2008, 11:11AM
“Sheila, move on and grow up!”
by sheila, the working, contributing real world
Tuesday, September 23 2008, 8:14PM
“Tanya, you have now become extremely boring and you have resorted to actually copying my statements and replying with them as you have no mind of your own and can only go through the motions of what adult minds can do yet not actually think for yourself when you have to ! Looks like your argument is now with this Goth that you you say you are sticking up for. You have said he wasnt there from the offset and you were so sure of yourself werent you Tanya ! Dont you now feel embarrassed ? Or are you trying to change the subject again now as usual and put it off the main point and back on to me and also how the Goths are victims again ! God..... so boring, get over it, change the record ! You said in the beginning James wasnt there, now he said he was, simple as that ! Just goes to show how people like yourself Tanya are so sure of yourself yet even the person you are sticking up for has proved you wrong and made you look a complete idiotic fool which yes thats what I have said about you from the beginning ! So yes you can now be a victim as well Tanya.....but I was still correct wasnt I !!!! I'll let you have the last word Tanya as you seem that sort, and I and James have now proved my point ten fold. This is why readers never listen to so sure un-educated do-gooders like yourself ! lol”
by Tanya, Plymouth
Monday, September 22 2008, 9:34PM
“wow sheila now u spurt ur nonsense on a thread about a march which was done to promote tolerance and understanding, to raise awareness of a campaign set up by a woman whose daughter was brutally murdered for being different by intolerant bigots. says it all really. nice.”
by sheila, the working contributing real world
Sunday, September 21 2008, 9:11PM
“Try again you said in the other forum Jamie ? I have just realised I am actually giving you the attention you so crave James + the silly tit for tat arguments that your so used to, that usually cleverly avoid the initial point made because you do not really know how to answer from within, like an adult. I also expect that you have been checking both forums every half an hour absolutely itching to try and sound intelligent again, without actually answering any questions. Jamie, you have stayed up all night looking through a dictionary to try to prove to everyone that your a goth and your automatically intelligent, by fitting the words into your comment even though you have still made numerous mistakes ! I think even from your last two comments in both forums people can see that your true colours are gradually shining through. What happened to the caring, + listening to others opinions, the mystical peaceful goths we have so been hearing about and that has been drummed into us for the past fortnight OR HAVE I TOUCHED A NERVE ! Please try to stick to the subject like a mature adult Jamie without trying to avoid it as this is what children do when they cant answer things when they have been naughty ! You have lied about your presence at the incident below which straight away makes you a worthless person which nobody will listen to from now on + also made whatever positive has been said about goths also seem totally worthless and true what people have been saying all along. Excellent one Jamie ! Also while the incident below was happening, another incident was happened in the town centre close to us that we could all see and which was reported in the herald. Do you mind telling the readers what this was Jamie IF YOU WERE THERE ? as I have kept it as a cut out and the date so you should surely remember if you can remember that far back to the incident below ! I can tell you in my next comment after yours so the readers can actually go to it on here. If not then I dont really think we have much more to say to eachother Jamie other than squabble like two little girls which I'm not really into or listen to you drone on about yourself or Goths which to be quite honest is becoming very tiresome and boring to the majority of people. Co-existence + prejudice you harp on about the forums. Straight away that is telling us that you think you are different from us, because you crave to be different dont you jamie, its boring, it bores people, you are not different, get it, just boring ! We all await your answer to the question given to you Jamie. If it is not correct then I will not even inform you or be wasting my typing skills in this extremely small goth forum again that no-one else seems to be interested in anyway. But nice to have talked, you have just simply backed up all what has been said about Goths anyway...... without even realising it yourself I expect, lol”
by sheila, the working contributing real world
Sunday, September 21 2008, 9:11PM
“Try again you said in the other forum Jamie ? I have just realised I am actually giving you the attention you so crave James + the silly tit for tat arguments that your so used to, that usually cleverly avoid the initial point made because you do not really know how to answer from within, like an adult. I also expect that you have been checking both forums every half an hour absolutely itching to try and sound intelligent again, without actually answering any questions. Jamie, you have stayed up all night looking through a dictionary to try to prove to everyone that your a goth and your automatically intelligent, by fitting the words into your comment even though you have still made numerous mistakes ! I think even from your last two comments in both forums people can see that your true colours are gradually shining through. What happened to the caring, + listening to others opinions, the mystical peaceful goths we have so been hearing about and that has been drummed into us for the past fortnight OR HAVE I TOUCHED A NERVE ! Please try to stick to the subject like a mature adult Jamie without trying to avoid it as this is what children do when they cant answer things when they have been naughty ! You have lied about your presence at the incident below which straight away makes you a worthless person which nobody will listen to from now on + also made whatever positive has been said about goths also seem totally worthless and true what people have been saying all along. Excellent one Jamie ! Also while the incident below was happening, another incident was happened in the town centre close to us that we could all see and which was reported in the herald. Do you mind telling the readers what this was Jamie IF YOU WERE THERE ? as I have kept it as a cut out and the date so you should surely remember if you can remember that far back to the incident below ! I can tell you in my next comment after yours so the readers can actually go to it on here. If not then I dont really think we have much more to say to eachother Jamie other than squabble like two little girls which I'm not really into or listen to you drone on about yourself or Goths which to be quite honest is becoming very tiresome and boring to the majority of people. Co-existence + prejudice you harp on about the forums. Straight away that is telling us that you think you are different from us, because you crave to be different dont you jamie, its boring, it bores people, you are not different, get it, just boring ! We all await your answer to the question given to you Jamie. If it is not correct then I will not even inform you or be wasting my typing skills in this extremely small goth forum again that no-one else seems to be interested in anyway. But nice to have talked, you have just simply backed up all what has been said about Goths anyway...... without even realising it yourself I expect, lol”
by sheila, the working contributing real world
Sunday, September 21 2008, 9:10PM
“Try again you said in the other forum Jamie ? I have just realised I am actually giving you the attention you so crave James + the silly tit for tat arguments that your so used to, that usually cleverly avoid the initial point made because you do not really know how to answer from within, like an adult. I also expect that you have been checking both forums every half an hour absolutely itching to try and sound intelligent again, without actually answering any questions. Jamie, you have stayed up all night looking through a dictionary to try to prove to everyone that your a goth and your automatically intelligent, by fitting the words into your comment even though you have still made numerous mistakes ! I think even from your last two comments in both forums people can see that your true colours are gradually shining through. What happened to the caring, + listening to others opinions, the mystical peaceful goths we have so been hearing about and that has been drummed into us for the past fortnight OR HAVE I TOUCHED A NERVE ! Please try to stick to the subject like a mature adult Jamie without trying to avoid it as this is what children do when they cant answer things when they have been naughty ! You have lied about your presence at the incident below which straight away makes you a worthless person which nobody will listen to from now on + also made whatever positive has been said about goths also seem totally worthless and true what people have been saying all along. Excellent one Jamie ! Also while the incident below was happening, another incident was happened in the town centre close to us that we could all see and which was reported in the herald. Do you mind telling the readers what this was Jamie IF YOU WERE THERE ? as I have kept it as a cut out and the date so you should surely remember if you can remember that far back to the incident below ! I can tell you in my next comment after yours so the readers can actually go to it on here. If not then I dont really think we have much more to say to eachother Jamie other than squabble like two little girls which I'm not really into or listen to you drone on about yourself or Goths which to be quite honest is becoming very tiresome and boring to the majority of people. Co-existence + prejudice you harp on about the forums. Straight away that is telling us that you think you are different from us, because you crave to be different dont you jamie, its boring, it bores people, you are not different, get it, just boring ! We all await your answer to the question given to you Jamie. If it is not correct then I will not even inform you or be wasting my typing skills in this extremely small goth forum again that no-one else seems to be interested in anyway. But nice to have talked, you have just simply backed up all what has been said about Goths anyway...... without even realising it yourself I expect, lol”
by David Lee Roth, Los Angeles
Sunday, September 21 2008, 5:50PM
“What complete tosh...the only decent music which has stood the test of time is pure rock and heavy metal.Plymouth was at its best when AC DC Kiss Motorhead Gillan Lynnard Skynard LED ZEP and many more were around not todays excuse for music its pafektik”
by sheila, the real working,contributing world
Sunday, September 21 2008, 11:22AM
“Try again says james in the other forum ? I have just realised I am actually giving you the attention you so crave James + the silly tit for tat arguments that your so used to, that usually cleverly avoid the initial point made because you do not really know how to answer from within, like an adult. I also expect that you have been checking this forum every half an hour absolutely itching to try and sound intelligent again, without actually answering any questions. Jamie, you have stayed up all night looking through a dictionary to try to prove to everyone that your a goth and your automatically intelligent, by fitting the words into your comment in the other forum even though you have still made numerous mistakes ! I think even from your last two comments in the other forum people can see that your true colours are gradually shining through. What happened to the caring, + listening to others opinions, the mystical peaceful goths we have so been hearing about and that has been drummed into us for the past fortnight OR HAVE I TOUCHED A NERVE ! Please try to stick to the subject like a mature adult Jamie without trying to avoid it as this is what children do when they cant answer things when they have been naughty ! You have lied about your presence at the incident below lying that you seen everything in the other forum just to yet again gain attention which straight away makes you a worthless person which nobody will listen to from now on + also made whatever positive has been said about goths also seem totally worthless and true what people have been saying all along. Excellent one Jamie ! Also while the incident below was happening, another incident was happened in the town centre close to us that we could all see and which was reported in the herald. Do you mind telling the readers what this was Jamie IF YOU WERE THERE ? as I have kept it as a cut out and the date so you should surely remember if you can remember that far back to the incident below ! I can tell you in my next comment after yours so the readers can actually go to it on here. If not then I dont really think we have much more to say to eachother Jamie other than squabble like two little girls which I'm not really into or listen to you drone on about yourself or Goths which to be quite honest is becoming very tiresome and boring to the majority of people. Co-existence + prejudice you harp on about. Straight away that is telling us that you think you are different from us, because you crave to be different don¿t you jamie, its boring, it bores people, you are not different, get it, just boring ! We all await your answer to the question given to you Jamie. If it is not correct then I will not even inform you or be wasting my typing skills in this extremely small goth forum again that no-one else seems to be interested in anyway. But nice to have talked, you have just simply backed up all what has been said about Goths anyway¿. without even realising it yourself I expect, lol”