Historians attack council over records care

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Monday, January 12, 2009
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HISTORIANS from around Plymouth and Devon have attacked council leaders at a fiery public meeting for not taking enough care of the city's ancient records.

The city council faced a barrage of criticism at a meeting called to discuss the fate of the Plymouth and West Devon Records Office.

Dr Todd Gray, one of the organisers, said: "Plymouth is known among archivists as the worst-appointed public records office in the country.

"There are academics from around the world who are interested in Plymouth's records."

Dr Gray said the city council had been given until 2013 to bring the record office in Clare Place up to scratch after the National Archives classified the building as unsuitable for storing records.

The city risked having its priceless historic documents being taken away to the National Records Office at Kew in London, he said.

The Coxside office was set up in 1982 as a temporary facility, said Dr Gray, an honorary research fellow at Exeter University, adding: "Twenty-seven years is too long to wait."

However, he praised the work of staff at the records office.

Vivien Pengelly, the council leader, told an audience of around 70 people that the council was actively searching for a new home to house the records, along with other important archives in the city.

She agreed that the Coxside office was 'a disgrace.

"I'm rather ashamed at the site at how our documents are housed, and the small amount of space available for the public to use", she said.

However, she added that earlier plans to create a 'History Centre' in the basement of Windsor House in Derriford were not viable.

Mrs Pengelly also revealed that the council was negotiating to use a large building it owned which had recently become vacant. She said she could not name the building until the talks were finished.

She invited Dr Todd and Maureen Selley, the chairman of the Devon Family History Society, to help to advise the council in setting up the History Centre.

Councillor Glenn Jordan, the city's Cabinet member for culture, leisure and sport, told the meeting in Spurgeon Hall, Mutley Plain, that creating a 'History Centre' was the second highest priority for the city council after building a new leisure centre in Central Park.

Mr Jordan said that the records were a 'sub-regional' asset, but one for which Plymouth was forced to bear the entire cost.

James Coulton, the council's head of culture, sport and leisure, said the city could not afford to buy or build a new home for the History Centre, and would have to use a building it already owned.

David Holman, chairman of the national Federation of Family History Societies, said his organisation chose a very small number of causes to support.

"We have chosen to support Plymouth because of the importance of this city," he told the meeting.

Tory councillor Andy Fox said later: "For over 25 years we have housed our records in a temporary archive centre and already within two years of being leader, Mrs Pengelly has committed herself in positively engaging with organisations to make positive steps in providing a permanent home in Plymouth for our historic records as soon as possible."

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    by Lizzie, Stonehouse

    Tuesday, January 13 2009, 6:09PM

    “A lot of focus is placed on the historic records, which are of course important for research purposes for events etc which have happened in our past, but it is worth our councilors remembering that many of these records are used as evidence and to provide information for current projects
    and many of those records held are late 20th century and record current lives and events (including the Council's own minutes and papers). Many of these records are used for legal purposes where often the original is required in court. I hope that our Councillors understand the nature of ALL the records held and the wide variety of purposes for which they are used.”

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    by Sylvia Guthrig, Plympton

    Tuesday, January 13 2009, 5:38PM

    “Having ticked the Government boxes with the Life Centre, I urge Plymouth City Council (to whom I am forced to pay taxes) to buck the Government trend and support their City's history.”

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    by Sally Roberts, Mutley

    Tuesday, January 13 2009, 11:09AM

    “I went to the Meeting on Friday and whilst I appreciate the fact that Mrs Pengelly, Mr Coulton and Mr Jordan took the time to attend, none of them offered any real hope for the future of the Plymouth History Centre.
    records of Plymouth.

    According to Mrs Pengelly and Messrs Jordan and Coulton,
    the Council's first capital priority project is the Life Centre, at a cost of £47 million, the Plymouth History Centre, is the Council's second most important project, at a cost of £4.5 million, which seems more commercially realistic and useful to Plymouth and its inhabitants, rather than a Life Centre, which seems to me mainly for university students and Plymouth City Council trying to look good for the 2012 Olympics?

    I concur entirely with the comments made by Mrs Barclay, Plymouth City Council have to stop all the prevarication and hiding behind commercially sensitive issues, regional squabbles, credit crunch problems and party politics and put their money and efforts behind what their mouths are saying about sorting out a home for the irreplaceable historic records of this historic city.

    One has to start to wonder if these people can rise and shoulder the resposibilities they have or whether delays and problems are created in the hope that if things are ignored for long enough, they will just go away. However, I and many like me can assure them, they will not

    Sally Mutley”

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    by Mrs Barclay, Plymouth

    Tuesday, January 13 2009, 10:06AM

    “Plymouth's failure to properly secure its regional status is causing this pathetic approach! If Plymouth took it's role as a significant regional centre seriously it would ensure its records both modern and historical would be properly stored and made democratically accountable and accessible, to national archival standards in an adequate building in an accessible location for the people of Plymouth.”

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