Players make a point with celebration
PLYMOUTH Argyle captain Carl Fletcher has lifted the lid on an incredible behind-the-scenes fallout at the struggling Championship club.
Fletcher scored for the Pilgrims in their 1-1 draw against bottom-of-the-table Ipswich Town at Home Park on Saturday.
His goal put Argyle 1-0 up in the 22nd minute and both he and his team-mates celebrated below the directors' box.
As they did so, Fletcher and some of the other players gave a thumbs up gesture.
The midfielder pulled no punches when he explained the reason behind that.
It stemmed from the Pilgrims' 2-0 defeat away to Ian Holloway's Blackpool the previous Saturday.
That was when Blackpool's on-loan Argyle centre-back Marcel Seip scored the opening goal of the game.
Seip, who was transfer listed earlier this season after a dressing room bust-up with boss Paul Sturrock, is the son-in-law of Pilgrims' deputy chairman Paul Stapleton.
Not only did Seip get one of the goals for the Seasiders, the Dutch defender stated afterwards he would not play for Argyle again while Sturrock remained as manager.
Then, in a picture which was published in The Herald last Thursday, Stapleton's wife, Kim, was shown apparently giving Seip a thumbs up gesture at the end of the game against Blackpool.
That clearly annoyed the Argyle players, and they made their point on Saturday.
Fletcher was critical of the decision to allow Seip to play for Blackpool against the Pilgrims.
The 29-year-old claimed it had portrayed Argyle as 'a Mickey Mouse club'.
Fletcher carefully chose his words when explaining his goal celebration against Ipswich.
However, the motive behind it still came across crystal clear.
Fletcher said: "There are a lot of politics in football and players don't mind that if it doesn't affect them.
"But when certain things start to affect us on the football field, then we have got a right to stand up and say something.
"Marcel playing for Blackpool last week should never have happened. At any other club in the country they wouldn't have let someone play on loan against them.
"I'm not saying it would have made a difference to the scoreline or anything.
"But it shouldn't have happened and it made us look like a Mickey Mouse club, and players take that to heart.
"At the end of the season, if we get relegated by one goal, that's going to affect all our livelihoods, not only the players but the people working at the club."


Fletcher added: "There was a certain photo this week where people appeared to be celebrating us losing, and things like that.
"Like I said before, it's just the politics of football really, but when it affects the players straight on then they are likely to stand up and say something.
"At the end of the day, it's going to bring us closer together. It's not nice when it feels like some people are not wanting us to go out there and win on a Saturday."
When asked who he was referring to, Fletcher replied: "I will let you figure that one out.
"It's just disappointing from everyone's point of view, when the players are working hard – day in, day out."
Argyle had to settle for a 1-1 draw against Ipswich after a 68th minute equaliser from Jon Stead.
They remain in 23rd position in the Championship table, one point above Ipswich.
Fletcher said: "In times of adversity, you find out the true characters of people.
"Usually it brings people closer together, and I think we have always had quite a strong team spirit here anyway.
"We know we are in a tough position, and we know we haven't played great this season.
"There are some games we should have won when we didn't, and some games we deserved to lose.
"But we are trying our hardest to put things right.
"When you have got other people working against you it's not nice," added the Pilgrims' skipper.
An Argyle spokesman, when contacted by the Herald yesterday, declined to comment.













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by Steve Foster, Plymouth
Thursday, October 29 2009, 11:40AM
“Mrs S and Mrs S were saying hi to their husband and son in law respectively. I cannot believe the reaction to their gesture. I always thought family came first. I was obviously wrong. Get over it and move on. Lets all support Argyle through this period of difficulty.”
by THANK YOU CARL, devon
Tuesday, October 27 2009, 10:26PM
“& the players that stood up this week. I thank you.
All this talk of disrespect to Mr Stapleton. What about the total lack of repect shown by the Stapleton family to the fans? especially those at the game! the club? the players?
How can anyone associated with the clubs deputy chairman (who brokered the deal for Seip to play) think that by being seen to openly celebrate another sides goal against our club that they would not be met with a hostile reception. Especially with the circumstances involved, adding Holloway to the equation and the IMPORTANCE of the game to many fans.
What about the fans who travelled to Blackpool?
What about the players at our own club embarrassed by the whole thing?
Why not turn out in force with Marcel Seip Blackpool shirts and really be done with it.
Don't talk to me about disrespect.
Maybe the real problems are becoming apparent, it wasn't disrespect to Mr Stapleton but just a simple case of what comes around goes around.
If privately you wish to congratulate Mr Seip than do so, I somehow think the level of anger towards such a gesture has been under estimated.”
by Santa Claus, The Hoe-ho ho
Tuesday, October 27 2009, 5:06PM
“Doctor X - you really need to get a life, grow up and start to learn to support just a single club.
Clearly you are a little bewildered with life and to say you stop supporting your team because they have stopped winning shows what you really are about - pathetic.
Clearly there are a lot who don't want Sturrock to stay, however, to change your colours (how can you ever support more than 1 team - and deadly rivals at that) is beyond me and most people on here I am sure.
Come on now and support your local team, forget the money grabbers and get behind those who need your support - not those who win for fun and occupy most of every tabloid back page.
Keep it green - you know you want to.”
by Wakey, Newton Abbot
Tuesday, October 27 2009, 4:46PM
“The question that has to be answered here is "who gave permission for Marcel Seip to play in this match after PS had already refused". If it is who I think it is-Ex Chairman Paul Stapleton- then I agree 100% with the players.”
by Noddy, Dingles
Tuesday, October 27 2009, 11:38AM
“It beggars belief that she would make a gesture like this after Argyle have just lost 3 nothing, she has clearly spent too many hours under the dryer at her local parlour, if I catch up with her in Dingles I've a good mind to let fly with a mouthful.”