“They couldn't even organise the concept of recycling despite the fact that refuse rounds have worked reasonably successful for decades. A plan to re-route in order cope with re-cycling fell into disrepute with most areas having rubbish and bins overflowing whilst waiting weeks to have their normal household waste and seperated recycled items picked up. No wonder in a fit of frustration they took the easy way out when it came along. To burn everything including the rest of the county waste. The real disaster area lies with those red faces in what they term the 'inner cabinet.' Churchill called his little hideout a' bunker.' I bet the rest of the county leaders are responsible for putting Cllr Pengelly's name forward for a National award. What mugs they must think we all are in Plymouth? Burning the rest of the County's rubbish including toxic waste for at least the next 25 years.”

“@LHPlymouth

I think the idea, kept well and truly behind closed doors like most of the stuff to do with the incinerator, is that we dare not improve recycling beyond the already abysmal 40 odd percent because it will take away too much of the high-calorie fuel needed to burn in the incinerator that will make the German company so much profit.

If we do not provide enough 'feed stock' (that's rubbish to you and me) the fire will not burn hot enough and MVV will not be able to make enough electricity or steam for Devonport.

Since places like Torbay, South Hams and other parties to the 'Waste Partnership' already have a higher recycling rate, it wouldn't look right for them to reduce their recycling would it?

So that just leaves the downtrodden and oft s-hat upon folk of Plymouth to suffer poor if not worsening recycling and, of course, the task of finding somewhere for all the bottom ash to be stored locally now.

Regrettably, we will soon find ourselves being the waste centre for most of Southwest UK thanks to the Viridor plant (mentioned in another article) and the potential for a second incinerator in Devonport fed, of course, by a short rail link through Blackies Wood, now it has been revealed the public will no longer have wide access (despite all those carrot-like promises in the early days) to the 'contaminated' woodland.

How jolly convenient.

Plymouth, space of waste”

“So PCC how does that sit with the incinerator? Delay that too (better still cancel it)

I was under the impression that the recycling centre has to be sorted BEFORE this can go ahead - its part of the plan.

How can you build an incinerator to take residual waste when recycling isnt being carried out efficiently in the first place - bung it all in the incinerator then?

Not very environmentally friendly!”

“Easy, Viv just skips a couple of holidays, sorry, fact finding missions.”

“Excellent! A few more HR suits and other non-jobs given their P45s and the job's a good 'un!”