Plymouth shop's delivery hours extension bid is refused

“how does this happen yet an incinerator is permitted?!”

“I and several of my neighbours have written to the council about the 30cm bees of Mannamead, but have they listened? No! It is only a matter of time before someone or something gets badly hurt. Thanks people!”

“"the issue here is that the shop in question agreed to delivery hours as it was the only way it was going to get planning permission, now it wants to change the goalposts in suit its own needs. nothing to do with the residents at all. just a foreign company trying to ride rough-shot over average joe bloggs AND LOST!!

Now see the similarity with another German company. All they wanted was to get a foot in the UK door and nothing to do with residents or even what is best for all of you. There is so much supposition in the planning doc that you probably won't even see the goalposts with the naked eye.

Good on the local residents in Plymstock but its the area and the councillor that's the clue to the success. They wouldn't dream of siting an incinerator in Plymstock....why not there is a quarry ideal for it right next to a recycling centre......however in all seriousness an incinerator shouldnt go anywhere. Wrong solution - do some research and you will see worldwide not enough waste to feed them.

The point is not about an incinerator but about how concerns of a handful of local residents have been listened to with this issue but not with the incinerator which throws up some of the same concerns that hundreds raised, so sorry if some are bored by what is a very serious issue that will affect everyone but question how come this happens in our so called democratic and fair society. Shoe might be on the other foot another time.”

“the issue here is that the shop in question agreed to delivery hours as it was the only way it was going to get planning permission, now it wants to change the goalposts in suit its own needs. nothing to do with the residents at all. just a foreign company trying to ride rough-shot over average joe bloggs AND LOST!!

typical idiots claiming shop will run out of stock, my god what planet are you all on....moaners the lot of you...or have they let the trolls out for a few days.”

“Oh come on dave have a sensible argument.”

“As I said - this is the wrong article for the incinerator...any excuse to blow that funereal trumpet...”

“did any one watch pms question time this week a mp from up the country asked why an incinerater was being built in her area the pms answer was it should not be built in a populated area and then said the appropriate bodies will look into this and if you dont care bruzcrat asked for the incinerater to be built outside ur house”

“No Bruzercat,

This story is about the same things -

"an adverse effect on nearby residents"

"which included excess noise at unfavourable hours and not being able to have windows open due to pollution from the lorries."

"detrimental to the neighbouring amenity"

No one is 'beefing' because one community succeeds. Its positive and to be applauded but what is does show is that once again the Conservative councillors of Plymstock favour the health and well being of their local area but don't give two hoots about an area where people really will suffer 'serious consequences'
The issue here is that the same arguments but on a much much smaller scale mirror those regarding the local people and the incinerator. This just shows the double standards once again within this city.
Many reports in the local press are actually related one way or another whether it be financial, the affect on local communities or the way a process has been carried out...either way they are all issues that affect and concern people in this city so if there is a conenction then the incinerator is part of it.

Maybe you should care as wherever you live one way or another the incinerator will affect you...maybe not immediately but if you or your grandchildren are around in 10 or 20 years time you never know. What did they used ot say about asbestos...what did they used to say about diesal fumes? What do they say now? Those that are campaigning against the incinerator have done their research and can see that incinerators are NOT the best option and it is NOT in the interest of Plymouth or it's inhabitants. However the campaign at the moment is about a legal challenge to the planning process and whatever you may think you know about incineration this is about legalities and lawfulness and that should concern everyone.

I can assure you that the campaign to stop the incinerator is NOT dead in the water and has not failed.

It is great to see others winning their fights and being listened to - it is possible!”

“This story is about the store's delivery times not the incinerator. That fight is dead in the water - get over it and move on...

Yes, these residents had already complained about noise/polution from the store and saw this as the thin end of the wedge if extended delivery hours were approved, so they objected, the council listened and judged that refusal of the application would not affect the store but would have serious consequences for the residents. Good on 'em I say.

To the previous commentators here I would say - keep your incinerator moans for the appropriate articles (God knows, there's usually enough of them) and don't beef when one section of the community succeeds where you've failed.
Perhaps their argument was rational and yours wasn't? I don't know, and personally I don't really care...”

“Double standards...discrimination.....Unbelievable!!

Residents 62 metres from a facility that will operate 364 days a year, 24/7, a facility that will be noisy in itself never mind throughout the day (with a get out clause that there may be times when lorries will have to 'deliver' outside of the stated times)....never mind what the emissions will do to people both near and far.

Hundreds of people will be affected immediately by the noise, traffic, size, visual impact and so on of the incinerator and SEVEN objected to the delivery times at Lidl.
People in St Budeaux already have the amplified noise of the deliveries to the store there. No one listens to the fact that everything in this bason is amplified.

Hundreds of people objected to the incinerator and the CONSERVATIVE council ignored them...now some of the same objections to something that doesn't even touch the implications of the incinerator have been listened to.

Absolutely ridiculous...SEVEN letters!!!!!! And they are taken notice of! What a disgrace!

Is this the same Mike Leaves who said the incinerator was the best environmental option? Is that because its not near where he lives......will still affect you Mike!”