Protesters vowing to maintain 'occupation'
PROTESTERS camped in Plymouth city centre say they are preparing to stay beyond Christmas to highlight the nation's growing discontent.
The Occupy Plymouth camp near Drake Circus is one of nearly 1,000 worldwide, as demonstrations over the financial crisis and social inequalities continue to spread.
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WINTER OF DISCONTENT: From left are Mark, Celvin, Glynn and Amy-Lea Cooper
Nearly 20 tents have now been pitched at the city's Jigsaw Garden, with activists ranging from the homeless and unemployed to solicitors and businessmen. The Occupy protests have split opinions across the globe, as riot police yesterday swooped on camps in the United States and legal action was launched against protestors in London. Plymouth's camp was erected ten days ago, and includes around 25 people from the city, surrounding villages and beyond who are staying full-time, plus a further 15 camping out between work and family commitments. They are calling for tighter fiscal regulation, the reigning in of corporations and action over the gap between rich and poor.
"The only way our culture of debt and privatisation is going to get sorted out is with massive change," said Kelvin, a practicing solicitor who has been staying overnight.
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"I've got a baby and I want him to grow up in a fair and just society."
Another protestor, PJ, travelled from Southampton to join the protest.
The dad-of-one, who described himself as a 'solo forest dweller', said he lost his job as a farm labourer when a corporation moved in and the farm went bust.
The 22-year-old said: "Vodafone are accused of owing £6billion in tax, yet pensioners are being sent to prison for not paying their council tax.
"That is a complete injustice and I feel I have a moral obligation to make sure my little girl doesn't go through it.
"We don't have the answers, but we're trying to get people to ask the questions that can force change.
"We alone can't change anything, but this is a collective group of thousands of people all over the world – and when that many people stand up their voices are heard."
Afternoon shoppers largely supported the demonstration.
Sue Cook, 56, from Tamerton Foliot, said: "A lot of people share their concerns but not everyone can to join in for whatever reason. It's a peaceful protest and I think they have valid concerns. I don't see the problem."
But Des Tidwell, 70, accused the group of being "anti-capitalists" and "hippies", and of "ruining the city centre".
Another protestor, plumbing company boss Glynn, said: "I'm not anti-capitalist – I run my own business – but I think we need fairer and stronger regulation.
"The banks played fast and loose with our money and got us into this mess, then a few months later they're back to back-slapping and bonuses. We're not here because we think sleeping in a tent on a small patch of land is going to change the world. It's about the numbers and the statement we're making."
A female student, who did not want to be named, said: "I've never been to a protest before but I felt so strongly about this.
"We're going to be here as long as it takes; we already have plans for Christmas."
And Mark, a photographer from the city, thanked visitors for donating food, clothing, books and firewood.
Daily visits from the police and a self-enforced ban on drugs and daytime drinking had kept away serious trouble, the activists said. They have also set money aside to re-seed the Jigsaw Gardens after they leave.
"We're not here to disrupt the area," PJ added. "We're here to disrupt the corporations."




Comments
by RussellJack
Sunday, December 04 2011, 5:28AM
“The vast majority of people admit these jokers are a waste of time and they are making a mess and once winter finally arrives it will then just be a case of the council emoving the rubbish at our expense.
On Friday I popped into town and walked past this so called camp, it was occupied by 4 people and a lot of empty tents, I assume this has probably been the case from the start.
Or maybe the other village people were signing on?
Also how about if maybe two of the four travel up to Scotland to occupy Gordon Browns constituency of Kirkcaldy as he has done the most damage to this country and caused these hardships, maybe he might be happy to donate some of his monies to top up your benefits or keep you in smokes.”
by StrictlyFan
Thursday, December 01 2011, 6:41PM
“I was talking about this protest with my friends at work today. I was surprised how many of them supported the protest. When I asked them why they said things like they didn't want the greedy bankers getting bonuses while us working people got worse pay. Why should we pay for the mistakes the money men made? We are not all in this together like they say. there is a small group of people who get all the money and all the rest of us suffer. I think this what they mean by the 99%”
by JohnnyDabo
Thursday, December 01 2011, 6:01PM
“Commies go home!!!”
by ollie_grifter
Thursday, December 01 2011, 2:42PM
“I'm actually starting to like JohnnyDabo in a kind of Jeremy Clarkson way. Jeremy Clarkson is also a complete **** but I find it hard not to like him as he spouts his ill informed, ignorant views in a persistent and dogged manner. You go Johnny, keep it going. If nothing else it's kept this thread on the front page for over 3 weeks...now if only the Occupy movement could capitalise on that momentum with some arguments of their own that made sense and agree on some plausible and feasible objectives they may actually be onto something!!!!”
by CornishPirate
Thursday, December 01 2011, 9:07AM
“I dont agree with what you say. But I will defend to the death your right to say it”
by ThatAlex
Thursday, December 01 2011, 2:49AM
“I spoke to some of the young people there today, after the march. They certainly seem very commited to change. I wish them well and hope that oneday the fairer society that they are hoping for comes to pass. God Bless them.”
by Workitout
Wednesday, November 30 2011, 10:43PM
“JohnnyDabbo and "Friends"
Johnnydabbo.........f$ck oorf!”
by JohnnyDabo
Wednesday, November 30 2011, 5:01PM
“Commies go home!!!”
by CornishPirate
Wednesday, November 30 2011, 2:17PM
“@Bandbunny: Regarding your question to Rhonda... "Do you honestly think by repeating it ad nauseam it makes it true?" Remember that repetition is a tactic that has been used to force-feed lies upon the ignorant masses for centuries. Goebbles said "If you repeat a lie often enough, it becomes the truth".
The only way to stop this from happening is by constantly calling the liars out and disproving them or silencing them... and reading through this comment board, you're doing a good job! Keep it up.
I support the protests, but more so I support 100% their inalienable rights to be able to peacefully protest.
Of course there's always 1 or 2 that you can't silence, no matter how often you disprove or question what they're saying..... @JohnnyDabo - The Occupy movement is worldwide.. It has NOT ended. It is still going. Of course I will consider any proof to the contrary that you might have.
On a side note; I work with 5,000 employees, colleagues and co workers and have around 700 friends in and around Plymouth. Every single one of them have expressed support for the occupy protests. (Believe me, please)”
by TwoTreesBob
Wednesday, November 30 2011, 1:14PM
“I think we are back on this one”