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Royal Marines move to Plymouth 'not value for money'

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Friday, March 08, 2013
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MOVING commandos down from Scotland under plans to create a Royal Marines 'super-base' in the Plymouth area did not "represent value for money" according to the Government.

Explaining the reasons for the U-turn over re-locating 45 Commando from Arbroath to the region, ministers said it did not make economic sense "at this stage".

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    Royal Marines move to Plymouth 'not value for money'

However this echoed the stance taken by the Defence Secretary Philip Hammond who stopped short of ruling out the Scottish-based commandos making the move at some point in the future.

The Secretary of State told MPs at Westminster earlier this week that 45 Commando would remain in Arbroath for "the foreseeable future".

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It had been planned for around 800 Marines and 200 support staff to move to the region in 2016.

One option raised as part of a potential consolidation of naval training sites was relocating 45 Commando to HMS Raleigh in Torpoint.

Plymouth is already home to Stonehouse-based 3 Commando Brigade, 42 Commando at Bickleigh, and 29 Commando Regiment Royal Artillery at the Citadel.

And plans are under way to bring Royal Marines' amphibious facilities together at Devonport from their current bases in Poole, in Dorset, and at Turnchapel.

Defence Minister Lord Astor was asked about the decision to keep 45 Commando in Scotland by former Tavistock MP and Royal Marine Lord John Burnett.

Lord Astor said: "We investigated the feasibility of the move to the south-west but that option did not, at this stage, represent value for money and Arbroath is not needed for Army basing in Scotland.

"It is my understanding that 45 Commando is very happy with this decision."

The change of heart on re-locating 45 Commando for the time being will inevitably fuel speculation that the reason is more political, coming ahead of the upcoming referendum on Scottish independence in 2014.

But informed observers also believe it could be linked to the complex logistics of the move to the South West. Naval training is currently carried out at both HMS Raleigh, for ratings, and the Britannia Royal Naval College at Dartmouth, for officers.

Bringing this together on a single site is set to cost time and significant amounts of money, as well as adapting facilities for the arrival of the Royal Marines.

Devonport-based ships were scrapped and city sailors' jobs lost as part of the Government's Strategic Defence and Security Review (SDSR) in 2011.

It was hoped the impact of the SDSR would be offset by the region gaining the Scottish-based Marines.

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    by Watcher11269

    Friday, March 08 2013, 12:39PM

    “3rd reincarnation of the same story published again...........Oh dear, Herald!”

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    by Foldart

    Friday, March 08 2013, 10:42AM

    “pogle63a - Go away and read your history. The government didn't send those men into the front to die. That was the job of Field Marshall Haig (or Butcher Haig,as he was known).
    His aim was to throw as many men as possible at the enemy in the hope the Brits would prevail. A sick man, some say. Men as cannon fodder. And that was a senior military officer, not the government.
    God help us all, if we ever get to be run by the military.”

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    by sidewinder

    Friday, March 08 2013, 9:25AM

    “Remember everyone....stop the tide of eastern European immigration


    VOTE BNP”

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    by pogle63a

    Friday, March 08 2013, 9:21AM

    “The reason why our armed forces are in such as state is that few of those actually in charge of them have the balls to stand up to these intereferring politicians and say enough is enough and actually take action to stop the cuts. Sadly the lure of knighthoods and lifelong pensions for those in charge of our armed forces virtually guarantee their silence and allows the hacking to go on.
    The Government has already broken its accord with the Armed forces and abuses its authority be deploying them under equipped, into conflicts whose purpose is at best dubious to the real defence of our country.
    As a former serviceman of 25 years I respect all our armed forces for the job they do and their dedication to duty. I have no respect however for politicians who would have us believe that the either the invasion of Irag or the ongoing crisis in Afghanistan is doing or has done anything to improve our homeland security, despite the best efforts of our troops.
    Funny how the Government can forget things the Battle of the Somme 60,000 casualties in one day! Again 61 000 British troops launched on the Allied Invasion of Europe.
    God help us all if the need to do the same ever came about today.
    I for one would like to see just once someone incharge of the Military say ENOUGH IS ENOUGH and follow it through.”

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    by Foldart

    Friday, March 08 2013, 9:05AM

    “Nice rant, queenie...I hope you feel better now :-)”

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    by queenie1923

    Friday, March 08 2013, 7:57AM

    “does our dozey goverment realise scaling down our armed forces is absolute nuts , these so called ministers , havent a clue , about what the forces need and dont need , haveing spent 22 yrs in the navy,, it just goes to show that how desperate things are wen you have to ask other ships for things that you havent got , now they want to get rid of pour tanks the famous desert rats , these mps , do they realise that the terrorism in the world is expanding not only to the middle east and asia but the rest of the world and as an empire and a member of nato our armed forces should have the ships tanks aircraft what ever they need should be at hand for them and accessable 24 hrs, not to be told no you cant have it by auditors, this country would save a lot of money that we give in aid to countries . do we get aid for the disaters that happen in our own country , no we just get on with it , its about time this country started getting selfish . and stopped dishing money let right and centre, and started thinking about our own people , all this benefit money that gets redirect to other counties , if there not in this country then they shouldnt be able to get it simple. ur own people cant get the right benefits, close our borders, stop immigration, and remove ourselves from the eu and stop ourselves being told what to do all the time , its bad enough by told our own goverment do you want me to go on ?? its about time this country had our voice back ......................”

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