Second blaze at Weston Mill aboned Plymouth ice cream factory building

“RoundHead0


I know where it is, and the plant does not spread into weston mill, if it did it would be covering wolseley road which it doesnt, it sits on the waters edge wasteland of barne barton, and i see it daily because i live there”

“..and now this gives the developers a perfectly valid reason for building a load of 'affordable' (to whom?) housing there...what about a play area instead although to be honest I wouldn't want the children having to play in the close vicinity of the incinerator?

No this area gets the dirty, noisy incinerator and all of SW Devon's waste along with the hundreds of lorries...no chance of this area being regenerated is there...only at the hands of the purpetrators of the monster who take something away to give it back and put something bad there and claim there is mitigation.....and boast of 3 lap tops at a community centre.
Maybe MVV should be organising holidays for the children so they can get away for some fresh air-didn't that used to happen in the war or some other time?

About time our local ward councillor showed his face and started to do something for the area and for those who foolishly voted him in believing he was actually going to be our voice...think he must need some throat pastilles as he has been very quiet since last May.”

“..and now this gives the developers a perfectly valid reason for building a load of 'affordable' (to whom?) housing there...what about a play area instead although to be honest I wouldn't want the children having to play in the close vicinity of the incinerator?

No this area gets the dirty, noisy incinerator and all of SW Devon's waste along with the hundreds of lorries...no chance of this area being regenerated is there...only at the hands of the purpetrators of the monster who take something away to give it back and put something bad there and claim there is mitigation.....and boast of 3 lap tops at a community centre.
Maybe MVV should be organising holidays for the children so they can get away for some fresh air-didn't that used to happen in the war or some other time?

About time our local ward councillor showed his face and started to do something for the area and for those who foolishly voted him in believing he was actually going to be our voice...think he must need some throat pastilles as he has been very quiet since last May.”

“Well onion65 since we're caring to look at maps, you may find that the ice cream factory referred to in this article is at the end of Cardinal Avenue a little more than 250metres from the site of MVV's incinerator (hardly way over). And if you care to study the mpa further you will notice just how close to civilian housing MVV's wasteful incinerator will be; 60metres from those living on Talbot Gardens in Barne Barton, within 100metres of Savage Road; there are 450 civilian residencies within a 250metre MoD designated blast risk zone radiating out from the centre of the site of MVV's furnace.

Looking at the immediate locality it is depressing enough to see how many citizens live will be blighted by MVV's wasteful incinerator, but it gets even more depressing and scarey when you see how many schools there are within 1 mile of the site, the closest being Weston Mill Primary (clue in the name). It sits immediately adjacent to the main access route for the diesel HGV's feeding the incinerator - an increase of 53% HGV per day on our roads! Incidentally diesel exhaust emissions are carcinogen, the World Health Organisation recently reclassified them as such - good news for the kids who attend this primary school eh? Especially since their playground is open air and right next to the Weston Mill Drive (another name clue).

But we're getting bogged down in the immediate locality here, if you expand your gaze over the map further, we can see how densely populated Plymouth is and you may or may not (I do because I care for my fellow citizens) see how positioning a 265,000 tonne of material a year incinerator, operating 24 hours a day, 364 days a year for 40 years, to the West of such a city is an appalling decision; a wicked decision!

The prevailing winds here are South Westerly (i.e. blowing in the direction of North and East) meaning that all MVV's incinerator emissions; the pm2.5 nano particles, metal vapours, nitrogen oxides - all nasty, cell damaging stuff - will be blown out over the entire city. Not bothered by that? I am as are many others.”

“RoundHead0


The piece of water is sits on is called weston mill lake because it used to flow into Weston Mill area, but the incenerator plant itself is adjacent to Barne Barton, and Weston Mill is way over the other side of Wolseley Road, if you care to look at a map of Plymouth they are two different districts of Plymouth”

“onion65 - oh yes it is, have you actually looked at the planning documentation?

Just in case you haven't - here is a link: http://tinyurl.com/b9phtdv

Please do have a look at the plans and do a bit of research into the truths of wast incineration, if you feel like it of course; I have so I know what I'm talking about and don't sound foolish when commenting on such articles.

Also in previous Herald articles the building site is revealed to be Weston Mill Lake; by your misinformed logic I guess that would be Weston Mill Lake nowhere near Weston Mill!?
(here: http://tinyurl.com/aefroev , and here: http://tinyurl.com/acf24sc)

Anyway thanks onion65 for highlighting the appalling level of misinformation, misdirection, deceit and lies given out about the wasteful and unneeded incinerator by MVV and the Herald. ;)”

“what i dont get is why in the past they havent knocked this building down!!!! if they done this then this woudnt be happening”

“RoundHead0

Friday, March 15 2013, 2:20PM
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"Weston Mill, oh yes, where MVV's wasteful incinerator is being built

It is no where near Weston Mill”

“"Weston Mill, oh yes, where MVV's wasteful incinerator is being built. The furnace fumes released from the 95 metre high chimney will be poisoning the atmosphere over the whole of Plymouth, everyday for at least 40 more years! An hour or two perhaps of fire, during one afternoon, at a derelict building complex just doesn't come anywhere near to the decades of damage MVV's fire will do to this city.

And yet The Herald, a woefully inadequate publication, staffed by educationally subnormal corporate bottom sniffers who's collective idiocy is outdone only by their editor, see fit to ignore the facts on mass burn incineration in favour of actively promoting it, often paraphrasing or simply reprinting MVV's own corporate literature.

Oh yes, Neil Shaw; has Paul Carey answered all those questions you and he promised would be following the live online 2 hour session in which Paul Carey didn't actually answer anything?
The hard hitting technical questions he "didn't have time to" and "couldn't type fast enough" answer?
Has he had enough time to come up with some more sidestepping contradictory statements, more lies, more denial?
And if so when will you be publishing them all, verbatim, so we can further see the truth of MVV's/Paul Carey's lies and cowardice and the Heralds complicity with misinformation and deceit?

Voice of Plymouth? Never have been, never will be.

Still, at least we can rely on the proper newspapers to report on the truths of incineration and waste treatment:

*The Independent, 10/03/2013
"UK incinerator plans? They're just rubbish. As garbage-burning plants proliferate, Britain could end up with too little waste to put in them" - http://tinyurl.com/a3ddf4d

*BBC, 08/03/2013 – UK air quality failings - http://tinyurl.com/bo8og7d

When the Herald ceases to print I wonder if anyone will really miss it?"”

“Have they coned the area off?”