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Saturday, September 08, 2012
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Plymouth Herald

ACCORDING to Cllr Leaves, the latest illegal encampment and occupation of Central Park may have occurred because a gate was left open by a council employee.

Even if it was, how does that justify another illegal encampment being set up, with the consequent and inevitable cost to the rate payers for cleaning up the site, waste disposal, fly tipping, toilets, dog excrement and so on?

Some of these holidaymakers who generously may ask to be described as travellers or Gypsies, have not been adverse in the past to the use of bolt cutters.

Recent incidents such as the use of bolt cutters on security fences at Crownhill and Staddiscombe with witness complaints, are a matter of public record and been reported to the police, with no action being taken.

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So the plush 4x4s drawing the equally plush caravans with associated satellite dishes, have now taken up residence on the main public park thereby depriving the people that pay for the facility of its use, until they deign to up sticks and go back home again to their permanent homes.

If they can park illegally on grass in Central Park, why can't they go to the existing grassed areas at St Budeaux, Woolwell or the hardstanding at Efford that have already been designated for their use?

Perhaps it's because the previous council estimate of £5,000 for each and every caravan pitch, not each site, hasn't been expended.

You couldn't make it up.

ALAN GRANT

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  • Profile image for LTW39

    by LTW39

    Sunday, September 09 2012, 1:15AM

    “a gate was left open yeah right more like they broke the gate open and the council are to scared to say as such incase of fallout from the travellers.

    stop putting kid gloves on with these people the law is the law and they shouldnt be above it no matter what they think”

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    by josdave

    Saturday, September 08 2012, 12:07PM

    “They seem to be exempt from the normal laws of trespass which we are expected to abide by. If I camped illegally somewhere my feet wouldn't touch until I was in a cell. Why do they pussyfoot around whenever "travellers" are involved? If they are parked illegally move them on straightaway end of. If they want to call themselves travellers let them travel and if they want to settle somewhere buy a house and settle they can't have it both ways.”

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    by roddy1664

    Saturday, September 08 2012, 11:48AM

    “Please make sure the site is V near trudie2010 home. unless He/she is a *****”

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    by grahame61

    Saturday, September 08 2012, 11:36AM

    “Well they didn't parachute in Cllr Leaves did they?, the only access point is a break between some boulders and the next tree.Put some more boulders in the space and access is denied,surely even the Council can put that right it's not rocket science is it ??.”

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    by stratobuddy

    Saturday, September 08 2012, 10:44AM

    “Plymouth will be building an encampment in the SOUTH HAMS on land they own there!!! I suggest S Hams buy some land in Plymouth to set up their camp there.”

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    by trudie2010

    Saturday, September 08 2012, 10:14AM

    “Council, stop pi**ing about and get the permanent sites built.”

  • Profile image for MissAnthrope

    by MissAnthrope

    Saturday, September 08 2012, 9:52AM

    “I don't think anyone can blame travellers for not wanting to pitch up in St Budeaux or Efford.”

  • Profile image for timplymouth

    by timplymouth

    Saturday, September 08 2012, 9:28AM

    “"You couldn't make it up."
    You appear to have made up half the letter”

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