Union willing to fight for civil servants' pay rises
PLYMOUTH union leaders have said senior managers deserve pay rises despite a pay freeze imposed by the Government.
Gordon Brown, the Prime Minister, yesterday announced a pay freeze for thousands of senior civil servants, NHS managers, judiciary and military top brass under moves aimed at saving £3billion over the next three years.
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Mr Brown said that GPs and dentists will also have their pay frozen after a recommendation from the independent salary review body.
The move came on the heels of a two-day strike in the city by public sector workers from the city’s courts, job centres, benefits offices and tax centres.
Martin Menear of the Public and Commercial Services Union (PCS) in Plymouth said: “In principle I believe that everyone is entitled to a fair day’s pay for a fair day’s work.
“When costs go up, so should wages.
“I don’t see why low-paid public servants should be made to pay for the problems caused by bankers who are still getting their multi-million pound bonuses. It’s an outrage.
“If any of these senior civil servants are members of our union, we’ll be fighting to get them the pay rise they deserve.”
Plymouth public sector workers joined hundreds of thousands of their colleagues from around the country in this week’s strike in a national dispute with the Government over redundancy payments.
Mr Menear called on the Government to come back to the negotiating table.
NHS managers and consultants, judges, senior military staff, GPs and dentists, and senior Whitehall civil servants, are among those covered by the Senior Salaries Review Body report released yesterday.
The review body has already been told by the Chancellor, Alistair Darling, that there should be no pay rise for those groups of employees because of the recession and the state of the public finances.








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by stuart, plymouth
Thursday, March 11 2010, 11:06PM
“Cheers 'worker' for the heads up with Lidl and Primark,i shall see them tomorrow...though i will have to get out of bed...hang on,nope cant do it!
Seriously thats handy info i will contact them ta.Re the slackers,yes there are too many of them,far too many,the ysystem needs changing properly;hopefully i dont come into that bracket.To be honest if im not at work..other than a bit of spare time i get bored senseless,i cant see the attraction personally of not working month in month out..or year in year out.”
by Worker, Cornwall
Thursday, March 11 2010, 4:59PM
“Lovely Civil Servant job, index linked pension, 30 days hol, sick pay. Your pay rise is our tax increase.
By the way Lidl are taking on as well as Primark.
The bus co's always have a turn over, but like most jobs you have to get out of bed.”
by tom, south hams
Thursday, March 11 2010, 4:25PM
“the problem exists because we have a proportion of the population as you mention polperro who won't work regardless of the economic climate.
The reason they won't work is because due to the fact that they have few or no qualifications and are not prepared to better themselves to get a well paid job and see themselves above any kind of work that is classified as menial or low paid.
They spend so much time watching MTV and reading chavvy celeb mags that their reality becomes jarred.
Instead they blame the problems of foreign immigration and bang on about the BNP, taking out their fustration either on professionals from outside the uk who have worked hard to get where they are, or fruit picker etc from poland who are prepared to do the jobs they won't.
People need to accept that this country owes you nothing and that you are in charge of your own destiny.”
by KH, polperro
Thursday, March 11 2010, 3:14PM
“Not tarring everybody with the same brush at all Stuart and as Tom said there are jobs out there.
This country has a REAL problem, with the long term unemployed, not people such as yourself that have recently lost their job, but those that have done sod all for years, even when the country was booming.
And the £64 a week isn¿t the whole story as potentially you¿ll get various other things paid for, rent, council tax, etc.
And yep it¿s picking season, and you¿ll see the city centre full of people bumming around doing nothing and yet we¿ll be importing Eastern European labour to do the picking! Whilst the same people moan that the Eastern Europeans are taking ¿their¿ jobs, these being the jobs that they aren¿t prepared to do of course.”
by tom, south hams
Thursday, March 11 2010, 2:38PM
“pretty much anyone can get a job if they want one, its just wether or not they are preapred to lower their percieved standards.
Mc donalds are advertising in plymouth as we speak, they will give you a job”
by Civil servant, Jannerville
Thursday, March 11 2010, 2:32PM
“Wel done Bob, I bet you can guess what will happen now. The MP will write to the Government on your behalf and then some civil servant will write a letter that another civil servant in the Ministers office will sign. Thanks for keeping us all in work.”
by Bob, Plymouth
Thursday, March 11 2010, 2:22PM
“If you think your hard up now, wait until 1st April, Council tax going up and fuel duty and most likely road tax. Fuel duty is going up by about 2p a litre so those of us who have to travel some distance to work, there is an extra burden, yet again, despite Gordon Brown saying in July 2009 that fuel duty will not go up for 12 months. I have written to MP about this so will be interesting to see what happens.”
by stuart, plymouth
Thursday, March 11 2010, 2:11PM
“KH...talk about tarring everyone with the same brush.I'm currently signing on,i get £64 a week to live on...try it.Ive paid tax all my life to get that;not a good investment,in fact i want my money back.
you think here is plenty of work out there?Guess what there is a recession and it does affect job availability a lot..Picking seaso coming?Oh right then i'll be at it with my screwed up shoulder and back from years of hard work.any other bright ideas numbnuts?Sure there are a lot of people claiming who could be working,equaly there are a lot who simply cannot find a job.As for pay freezes..damn right,we are all struggling so let it be.”
by KH, polperro
Thursday, March 11 2010, 1:29PM
“Interesting that everyone seems to be suffering during this recession, EXCEPT of course the dolites! Both public and private sector are having small pay increase or no increase at all yet I don¿t see benefits being cut. In fact if you¿re not working you¿re actually BETTER off during a recession as compared to everyone else. And of course it¿s a gift to your long term dolite, as they can claim there aren¿t any jobs around. So come on who ever gets in to power come May, plenty of money to be saved by trimming say £20 a month off the long term dolite, its only the price of a packet of fegs a week.
Oh well it¿ll be flower and veg picking time soon, plenty of work to be had there, of course not for your dolite, as they can¿t be bothered to do it, as they¿re holding out for that top job!”
by Dick Barton, Plymouth
Thursday, March 11 2010, 12:33PM
“I seriously wonder how much some of them would be missed. I have a close relation who is a NHS project manager and I can¿t help feeling that if they didn¿t keep striving for so called improvements that are in reality no benefit to the patient whatsoever they could save millions. I am reliably told that amongst the many ¿buzz words¿ sustainability is one that NHS managers love. It seems that they overlooked the fact that in this economic climate their pay increases aren¿t ¿sustainable.¿ Having said that, if MP¿s can have pay rises then why shouldn¿t the civil services? The consistent inability of this government to deal with the banking debacle with the resulting cost to the tax payer is a national scandal. I agree with Jenny¿s comments on the payment of benefits and I have been on them. The little I was entitled to was of no use what so ever as I had worked for the previous twenty seven years they seemed to think that I could miraculously meet my mortgage payments. Result, I had to sell my house quickly to avoid repossession and losing everything. Bit by bit I pulled myself up by the boot straps re training and re educating myself in order to become employable. Ironically I see the same pattern now as part of my work is careers¿ development. People who have worked for the last twenty years are left reeling from redundancy, no real benefits and indifferent ¿tick box¿ Job Centre staff. Those who manage to get onto the system straight out of school seem to be able to thrive on benefits. The reality is that there are less and less people doing jobs that pay enough to enable the government to apply tax and prop up the civil servants and benefit brigade. Sooner or later the wheel will fall off and we have already lost one and the other two are flat.”