“Not promising that 2 of them admit to supporting another team...so what are they after?
As for friends of Blair being involved,can people who associate with a slippery,dishonest chancer like that really be trusted?”

“Come on guys, people moan that there is no investment, in either the ground or players, now we have these proven, well off, self made businessmen who have directly or indirectly pumped money into our club, and yet people still moan! We are not going to be able to attract a Roman Abrahmovic, or a Jack Walker type person, this is our only hope. These men would not risk damaging their reputations by backing our club on a hunch. Fair enough, business is risky, but lets enjoy! God knows where we'd be if they dind't bail us out last year. We'd owe far more than the 2.8million, we wouldn't be getting the ground 'finished' ,have a potential world cup to look forward to, and probably still have Sturrock in charge.

Nuff Said”

“I think this is going to be a step towards administration after 2018 - these sorts of people don't lend out money unless it is a Tax write off Something is setting off a warning bell in my mind”

“Considering the size of Plymouth and the poor support for Argyle who should we be having ago at?.
If they are putting money in for profit good luck to them. If you invest in something you do not expect or want to make a loss. Surely we should be contributing to watching our team and provide revenue for the club. It appears that many of you forget the poor support in Plymouth. I thinking the sleeping giant died along time ago.

Any other entetainment is done for profit and we the punters pay to watch the entertainment. Is that the accepted way or am I wrong?.
If you go to watch a film you pay for it The cinema owners and film makers by their investment look to make a profit.

PAFC like any football club is not like the public sector. It is a business with investors who strive to be successful and profitable. Tell you what let the tax payer pay for our club. I think not!! Therefore I say stop moaning.”

“My biggest concern is we're being told they need a successful football club for the new rebuild to be successful, I'm not sure this rings true.

Is it not possible a loss making Argyle going into administration and subsequently out of business would just clear the way for fortnightly sell-out concerts and whatever other 24/7 activities they have planned for HP?.

Whilst current covenants do sort of protect the stadium being used for sporting purposes, there's very little PCC can do if the current tenants at HP were to go out of business. Given there's nobody within 100+ miles capable of affording to rent the stadium for sports reasons on a regular basis the covenants would be useless and PCC's hand would surely be forced, especially with the Life Centre next door.

This is of course worst case scenario fears. I guess all we can really do is wait and see. Hopefully Argo will go on to prosper or if there is any ill intent, someone will step up before it's all too late.”

“If this is to be believed then its about time they put their hands in their deep pockets and invest more than just pocket money as until they do to enable us to get decent players we will just continue to go down down down”

“Joe Plumeri is the spitting image of Victor Kiam - and he was so impressed, he bought the company!”

“nik and Darren have it right these men haveNO interest in Plymouth Argyle only in how much money can be made. If money is allowed to rule then this club will be in the 4th division(league 2) next year. We need a board interested in the club prepared to let the manager get on with managing with as little interference as possible.”

“As far as I can see through the lack of transparency the structure is as follows.

Plymouth Argyle Holdings whose shares are held by Stapleton and a few Argyle supporters, the japanese and an investment company called Mastpoint ( Gardner, Todd, and Plumeri.

PAFC (the football club)wherein the shares are owned by the Holding. This company owns the players, maybe some equipment and its income is from the gates,sponsorship and other marketing activities. PAFC also has to pat rent to the "arm's length" property company that owns Home Park.

The propert company : Who owns this? This company will benefit from the increased value of Home Park , make the investment etc. for the World Cup development. Get the income from concerts and other non football activities.

Am I right in thinking that we will just have a football club that must be self sustainable ( can go into admin if things don't go well) and can only develop by going into debt through the holding by companies such as Mastpoint.

The board of a few years ago, although not in a financial situation to expand the club, were Argyle supporters and I always trusted that they were not in it for personal gain. Of course they were not in it to lose their money, perfectly understandable.

With this new structure it would seem that Argyle will possibly have even less control over its own destiny.
No stadium as an asset ( collateral for lending) and always having a chance that the shareholders of Mastpoint pull the plug leaving nothing over.
All of the other names lending money to Mastpoint ( how much has filtered through to the football club?) will want their loans reaid if they are not getting a sufficient return on their loans.
Whatever happens the value of Mastpoint will be expected to increase to the benefit of Gardner, Todd etc.

How are the Japanese , Stapleton and the smaller shareholders viewing this?

Basically we have no idea where it is all going to and what the motives of Gardner, Todd and consortium are?

Keep the faith I suppose and not be suspiscious.”

“BIG MEN small pockets.but then again look at QPR. money men???? hmmm well u dont see them going out and buying everyone they see?. plus i,d rather have players down here who wont,s to play football and wear there shirt with some pride at least.( yooooouuuuuu JANNNNNNEEEEEEERRRRSS).GREEN AMY GREEN ARMY.”