First look at 552-student block planned for old Naafi site

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THIS is what the planned £21million student accommodation development on the site of Plymouth's former Naafi building on the Hoe will look like.

The University of Plymouth gave The Herald the images of the landmark development it wants to build on the Notte Street site of the building, now called the Hoe Centre.

The new structure, which if approved should be complete in September 2012, will house 552 student bedrooms in 63 flats and 83 studio rooms, with offices, a reception, working rooms, a launderette and even a surfboard store.

Contractors began pulling down the Hoe Centre a few weeks ago. There have been protests against the demolition but the university said this week the project would continue after a bid to get the building listed failed.

A planning application lodged with the city council by the university, which owns the land, says: "The scheme has been designed taking into account the principles of good urban design. At high level, consideration has been given to creating a simple but articulated silhouette to the skyline.

"The blocks are bisected by a new route — the reintroduction of the historic connection of Sussex Street with Notte Street. These north-south routes, which are called today Zion Street, Hoe Street and Sussex Street, can be seen on the 1820 Cooke map of Plymouth."

The application also says accommodation is "a crucial factor in recruitment of students in an increasingly competitive market", and that the university needs "at least 1,800 additional bedspaces in large purpose-built developments" so it can be in a position to offer purpose-built accommodation to all its first-year students.

English Heritage confirmed on Monday that an application to give the Hoe Centre listed status, which could have saved it, had been rejected by the Culture Secretary.

Demolition was halted by the Health and Safety Executive earlier this month on public safety grounds, but the council has since agreed the barriers around the site can be moved and work can continue.

Martin Berkien, the university's director of estates and facilities management, told The Herald the Hoe Centre had badly deteriorated and the university could not justify the cost of retaining it.

Opponents of demolition launched a Facebook group plus a petition, and protester Joakim Boren said yesterday: "The campaign and petition will remain until the building is down."

Mr Boren said he hoped those against the demolition could persuade the university to preserve the historic clock tower and the western part of the building.

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    by alexander Baillie, Scotland

    Friday, July 30 2010, 5:11PM

    “I have commented on other sites about this subject, and my suggestion would be to rebuild as per the old Naafi building, at least it would be a memorial to what used to be a great venue back in the 60s, the design would not be alien to any other buildings in the area especially that hotel to the rear, I visit Plymouth every year and would dearly love to see the building "re-produced" in the exact same style as it was way back then,,,,, Alexander Baillie (ex ASrgyll and Sutherland Highlanders, Seaton Barracks Crownhill 1966-1969 very happy years in your lovely City”

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    by Em, Plymouth

    Thursday, July 29 2010, 3:34PM

    “Quote:
    This is PRIME Realestate, what is it with this Council and the Planning Dept this is clearly a case of the DOG WAGGING THE TAIL the Dog being the University and the tail belonging to the Poodle which is PCC. "

    Jenny, that made me laugh so much....its not very often you see a dog wagging its tail is it?!


    I love the fact that the people who moan and complain about students are usually the ones not clever enough to get into Uni in the first place.”

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    by Chris, Greenbank

    Thursday, July 29 2010, 11:35AM

    “Please note that this is only to certain people here...Can we please stop the student bashing? If a few noisy students is the cost of a Plymouthian economic revival then I think it's a price worth paying. Amnesia does seem to be rife amongst a lot of my fellow Plymouthians. The University alone employs 3000 people and has brought a real sense of modernity and change to the city, far detached from the bleak future that the MOD have painted over recent years. I firmly believe in the efforts that the University has made to improve the city. The city would do well to encourage more students to stay after their degree so these well qualified, intelligent and above all ambitious men and women could help the city prosper through their professional lives.”

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    by Jack Ringer Town Crier, Plymouth

    Wednesday, July 28 2010, 10:44PM

    “....I wonder if the Uni will let me open a sweet shop in there?

    Along with my way cool Laundromat with attitude....

    Jack
    I will sell Rhubarb and Custards too”

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    by J Nolan, Still Not on Notte St

    Wednesday, July 28 2010, 10:24PM

    “If this building was going up anywhere else in the city I doubt no one on here saying how outraged etc etc they are would have given two hoots. Just like you probably couldn't have cared or even noticed when the blocks went up in Exeter St, Central Park Ave, Colburg St etc. Don't confuse you emotion over the Hoe Centre coming down with the design of this building. As the previous comment says it won't win any prizes but at least it will be USED.

    Lets just move on and learn the valuable lesson from this that we need to do more NOW to save historical and architecturally important buildings in the city. NOT moan like a load of winging Janners when it's too late.

    Lets clean up, repair and use fully what we have already. Maybe then more people will actually give a dam to how this city looks and "moves on" (that's a contradiction there then) in the future.

    Stop harping on about the Hoe Centre and start with the one unique asset the city has, The Hoe and Foreshore area. Walked around it lately ? What a completely un-utilised asset. Any other forward thinking city in the world would have done this decades ago.

    To quote my fave comment on such issues like this regarding this city "Plymouth always gets what it deserves"

    There you go Plymuff an "average" looking building within a stones trow of such a stunning location for all to see how every single time this city misses out on golden opportunities to be the great city it potentially could be.”

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    by 42, cornwall

    Wednesday, July 28 2010, 10:23PM

    “well, all those people who thought it fine to demolish the Naafi building, what did you really expect? This building looks c**p, is C**p. Sorry, this is where your fine city is going. Come to think about it, all of you who voted tory - what did you expect. You have short memories indeed. did you expect nirvana? wait till it gets really bad.”

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    by Kat, Plymouth - Mutley area

    Wednesday, July 28 2010, 10:20PM

    “What is wrong with you people? I live in an oooh-so-dreaded student area just off Mutley Plain with plenty of student lets around us... my street is absolutely fine! There is a recent conversion of an old pub into student flats close by and it's fine. The occasional group of revellers may go through the street late at night making some noise but this rarely happens and who's to say that they were students? They could be just people like me - employed full time just out having a little too much fun and getting a bit too loud.. so what? I see more local chavs outside clubs puking and/or picking fights than students causing fuss in the streets of Plymouth.

    If you've got an issue with the proposed development then do something constructive about it and follow Sharon's advice - write to PCC with a valid reason as to why it should not be permitted to be built.”

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    by Neil, Mike, Viv and Rick, Student Digs... Man

    Wednesday, July 28 2010, 9:53PM

    “Well the building probably won't win any architecture prizes for design BUT it certainly is better than an old empty redundant building that nobody wanted or could use stood there empty.

    Maybe the residents in the highly student populated areas like Mutley will secretly be glad as it means the more of these developments there are in other parts of the city (bringing a bit more needed life back into the centre btw) It means less students in their areas freeing up some of the homes in those areas to be used for "locals" again ?

    Just a though !”

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    by Steve, Plymouth

    Wednesday, July 28 2010, 7:50PM

    “Johnno, Pennycomequick: Wasn't it your commie, sorry liebour, leader that said the priority was education, education, education?!
    If you don't like it maybe you should move to a tory constituency!
    Look on the bright side, at least there will be 13 extra red voters at the next general election. After all, by then the students will be ready for their benefit cheques.”

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    by DD, Plymouth

    Wednesday, July 28 2010, 7:41PM

    “If you want to provide Plymouth City Council with comments on this planning application, you can do so through this link. http://www.plymouth.gov.uk/planningcomments?appNumber=10/01163/FUL&appAddress= HOE CENTRE, NOTTE STREET PLYMOUTH PL1 2AR”

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