Four incinerator bids go on show
PLANS for an energy from waste (EfW) incinerator on the banks of the Tamar came under the spotlight last night.
Ernesettle residents got the first view of a month-long "waste roadshow" featuring the four remaining bids to handle domestic rubbish from Plymouth, Torbay and South Devon.
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TOP LEFT: Plans for a new multi-million-pound waste treatment facility go on show at Ernesettle Community School. ABOVE: The proposed site at Ernesettle, circled
The South West Devon Waste Partnership has narrowed its options for the £100million project from nine initial expressions of interest.
The German waste company MVV Umwelt has proposed incinerators at sites in Ernesettle and Devonport Naval Base's North Yard, while Sita has put forward a proposal for the Naval Base's South Yard. Viridor is focusing on its own site at New England Quarry near Lee Mill.
Sita had also proposed a plant at Ernesettle, but withdrew that plan last week.
Alison and Frank Sargent from Ernesettle strongly oppose a waste plant on their doorstep. "The situation would be wrong," Mr Sargent said after seeing the exhibition at Ernesettle Community School last night.
"Putting it at the bottom of a river valley means that any pollution from the top of the chimney is going to stay in the area."
Mrs Sargent said the plant would be an eyesore at a time when Plymouth wants to attract tourists with its football World Cup bid. "Ernesettle is Plymouth's secret garden," she said.
Michael Greenwood, an environmental sciences student at Plymouth University, said: "From what I've seen and read, the New England Quarry site would be better suited. There would be too many objectors at Ernesettle.
"Environmentally the New England Quarry site is better, too. But from what I have read, incinerators have advanced so much that the pollution is really minimal."
Mark Lowry, Labour councillor for Honicknowle, said MVV Umwelt, which wants to build and operate a plant in Ernesettle, is not currently operational in Britain. "They have no experience of working in the UK," Mr Lowry said.
He said there was no way to use the waste heat at Ernesettle. Retro-fitting a "district heating" system would be prohibitively expensive.
Either of the Devonport proposals would be able to feed heat into the district heating network that serves the Dockyard and the Navy.
The Lee Mill proposal could eventually provide heating for Sherford new town.
Ian Hunter from St Budeaux said the roadshow provided all the information that he needed to make up his mind.
"Waste is a problem that has to be dealt with," he said. "As someone living near to one of the possible solutions, I would not be very happy.
"I talked to the person from STIFLE, who doesn't seem to have any real reasons for opposing it, other than that he doesn't want it.
"They are using the same technologies in Europe and it seems to be acceptable there."
Final tenders will be invited next year. The plant will be operational in 2013.
ROADSHOW DATES: Tomorrow, 4pm to 8pm, City College Plymouth, Kings Road, Devonport; Thursday, 5pm to 8pm, Ashtorre Rock, Waterside, Old Ferry Road, Saltash; November 13, 4pm to 8pm, The Watermark, Leonards Road, Ivybridge; and November 14, 10am to 2pm, Plymouth Guildhall.
Read the arguments at www.ernesettle.org.uk and www.plymouth.gov.uk/ swdwp.html








8 Comments
by Educated person, plymouth
Sunday, December 13 2009, 12:05PM
“To start with, most of the arguments that have been stated on here are not right.
Instead of thinking inside the box think of the wider inplications and why the south west have stated that they need an incinerator.
As of 2015, the landfill directive will enforce a law that will directly influence each and everyone of us. It will cost £150 a tonne to put any municipal waste into landfill and if Plymouth, torbay, the south hams or any one of the districts within the south west or in the UK go over the quota that will be allocated to them there will be a fine of £500,000 a day.
Who do you think will end up paying this money?
It will be us the tax payer !!!
Before anyone comments about more recycling, the south west is currently recycling over 50% of its waste and unfortunately that is not much more room for improvement.
Therefore we have a problem. How can we reduce our waste to a bare minimal so as not to induce these fines.
The answer is to build an incinerator. Now there are many agruments as to where this should be sited and i do have to agree that some of the areas that have been suggested are laughable but the proposed site outside of Ivybridge has my vote.
The site used to be an old quarry site, therefore there was a constant supply of lorries heading in and out on the A38, if an incinerator was put there it would be the same again and the residents put up with the noise and amount of traffic then so what would have changed?
With the quarry there would have been dust particles emitted into the atmosphere daily added to that the exhaust fumes from all the machinery but there was no complaint about this.
Okay, i know that incinerators emit dioxins but these levels are extremely small and new incinerator technologies remove a high amount of these concentrations out of the any potential emissions.
Now i would like to tell you all something.
Do you like firework displays?
Do you take your children to the firework competition on the hoe every year or do you go down to your local pub or even set them off in your backyard/ garden?
Fireworks release more dioxins into the atmosphere in one evening display then an incinerator does over one year of working.
Now assuming that there are 4/5 displays of fireworks every year and plus the countless others done by residents, this would account for 4 incinerators releasing dioxins annually in one area which quite frankly will never happen because there would be only one.
I have never heard anyone complain about the release of dioxins in fireworks but you all jump on your high horse when an incinerator is proposed to be built near to where you live.
To end on another note, the landfill space of devon and cornwall WILL run out in 2025.
The landfill tax WILL go ahead.
The landfill directive WILL inforce the fines
AND WE WILL BE THE ONES WHO HAVE TO PAY FOR THIS !!!!
Now make your complaints as the governement have already agreed to this.”
by Frankie Dolan, Ivybridge
Friday, November 13 2009, 1:18PM
“You can find out more about the incinerator issue and join in the discussion with Ivybridge residents at our website www.ecoivy.org”
by Frankie Dolan, Ivybridge
Friday, November 13 2009, 1:12PM
“There is a lot of opposition to the proposed incinerator at New England Quarry. Ivybridge residents have only just begun to learn of the plans which is why you have heard little argument yet - but you will do very soon.
Arguments against the location at New England Quarry are the proximity to the river, the proximity to the Langage Power Station (which many local people are already very upset about), and the already dangerous junction at Lee Mill. An additional 120 to 150 lorries coming through that little junction each day may just be enough to tip it over the edge - gridlock at that part of the A38 would have massive implications for the whole of South Devon and even Cornwall. Clog up the A38 and the next thing you will have to do is widen the road or build another A road - and see how that will effect the environment - or else do nothing and watch as business start to pull out of the area because of the inaccessibility.
On top of all this, South Hams is doing far better at recycling than Torbay or Plymouth, so why undermine our efforts? Those producing the waste should find a solution for their waste in their own patch. I don't think many people would object to an incinerator to burn Ivybridge's rubbish if we were first given the chance to find alternatives (other than landfill) - and you can be sure we would!
Modern day incinerators may be cleaner than the old ones, but they still emit dioxins and other harmful chemicals that are persistent and bio-accumulative - once they get into our food chain they will be there to stay and future generations will be left to deal with the effects of the carcinogenic toxins we have left them. In addition, incinerators produce a lot of ash, which ends up in landfill anyway (don't be fooled that this stuff is easy to sell to the local construction industry). The ash takes up less space, but so it is going to make your landfill last longer, but this is no long term solution . The problem is, once we have the incinerators, we will be even more dependent on landfill than before (just with ash in it instead), because to shut an incinerator down after everyone has become dependent on it and stopped their recycling efforts would be very hard to do.
If you like breathing Devon's clean air, if you support the farming industry, and you want people to continue taking their holidays in our beautiful countryside, then it is about time Devon's public unite to protect our area and press the local government to research more the far greener alternatives to either landfill or incineration.”
by ray rees, plymouth
Tuesday, November 10 2009, 9:29PM
“this is the tip of the ice burge where these sits of chenoyle are concerned the mistakes of siteing these sort of toxic /chemical waste powerstations should never be put any where near populasions or family hapitates particularly the 18 squre killometres of dust that remian on the old saab car plant on the russion borders that killed thousands much bigger than chenobyles dissaster thats why we have to get rid of these obsoleat leaking rust buckets in our back yards as we now have much better fuel forms of propultion with no toxic bye products to harm & threaten our health & safty of our enviroment as a true envirolmentalist & gardener we need to recycal our waste in a more natural way where we now have the means that the rest of the world want with out hazardous vapour emmisions to our health”
by ray rees, plymouth
Tuesday, November 10 2009, 8:56PM
“no i have no vested interest & i have never worked for these companies as im a gardener by profession a real green & a prospective /respected councillor for the city center waterfront ward in 2007 when the poll was rigged on me by the labour goverment officials where they never put me in the 8 polling stations till mid afternoon when i challenged them as they illegaly advertised the 4 main opposision parties in the polling booths at i level how democratic of them to keep the true representatives out as the returning electorial officers will testifie (david shepard & nigel spillsbury the electoril city council s man in the deliberaty rigged poll where the city center residents at the time of the labour council was not truely represented as like today i am a indigenous plymouthian/devonian fight for all families to have their say for justice”
by jean hearn, ernesettle
Tuesday, November 10 2009, 8:37PM
“I agree with Mick ,barbican,the ammount of traffic this would cause would be terrible. My house overlooks the field by the church, we can hear traffic from the A38.also the lorries that already thunder up and down errnesettle lane.and there has been accidents .were then the whole of the A38 and roads around Plymouthe are block .we have the noise from the matches being played at the club( which I don.t oject to that )and what about the extra pollution from the lorries themselves.I work nights and I can;t have my bedroom window open.BAD BAD idea.or is it just the fact it's on acouncil estate and we don;t matter.”
by Mick, Barbican
Tuesday, November 10 2009, 7:52PM
“The Ernesettle incinerator itself is only half the story, the other half is the stream of lorries going to and from it; some would even be bringing Torbays rubbish which would mean they'd have to cross Plymouth from east to west, adding to the traffic.”
by mr angry, plymouth
Tuesday, November 10 2009, 6:24PM
“sounds like a very bad case of sour grapes there mate.were u sacked by any chance.whistleblowers make my skin creep.”