Have your say on new Gypsy and travellers transit site for Plymouth

“Mr Benn47,

In reply to your rather inaccurate comments about students...the student population of Plymouth contribute a huge amount of money, not least to the University itself via fees - so they can continue to product their fantastic research, but also to the local businesses, shops, bars and restaurants. It is likely one the large contributors to local economy, given it's hardly booming business back in old Plym.

Secondly, it is only fair that students can forgo council tax costs given I for one would prefer they pump their capital into local businesses rather than give it to the local council. As an aside, it does not effect the landlords given this charge is, under usual circumstances, passed onto the tenant.

In summary,

Students: They come, they contribute, they spend, they achieve, they leave.
Travelers: They come, they annoy, they intimidate, they dirty, they don't contribute and then they leave and go on to do the same elsewhere.

Wake up mate.

Stephen”

“What about the mud flats on the Plym along the embankment.”

“I can see where some of the commenters are coming from, but moaning about the travellers not paying council tax (maybe they are the sensible ones) how about all the so called landlords of student accommodation that we have in the city now, who also don't pay council tax. I would suggest that the resources that are used by the students far out way any that the travellers use. I mean it is not very often, or if we do there are not many in any one group of travellers that use the city, whereas there are thousands of students”

“@Winstonsmith0 - You were offended? That's sad. You should get out more. It's your right to be offended and mine to offend. That's called freedom of speech.

Now, as far as I'm aware the incinerator at New England Quarry is still in its proposal stage, isn't it?”

“hands up who likes Gypsies.....”

“As I clicked on the story, I was thinking, "yep, the comment's will largely come from uninformed, gobby intolerant dimwitted bigots"..........bingo!”

“@blogtodi

I find your comment offensive - not the part where you suggest travellers should be charged nor the part where you suggest they should be sited together - but the part where you say they should go next to the (it's not proposed any more; it's actually being built) incinerator.

This might be seen as a direct insult to the whole community having to suffer the incinerator - they are already being subjected to continual noise and vibration from 8 in the morning (if not earlier) to 6 at night. At times it is quite unbearable. They are now the official 'collateral damage' of Plymouth.

With that in mind your comment appears to suggest it is therefore the perfect location for travellers and implies innocent members of the existing local community, who have done nothing to deserve this satanic mill, are no better themselves.

Personally, though, I think you should have suggested a traveller site INSTEAD of the incinerator because, let's face it, no matter how bad we think travellers might be they could not begin to damage this city as much or cost it as much money as the incinerator will over the next 25 years!”

“If Cllr Penberthy gets his way on this,and these sites get the go-ahead,this area will come to regret it big-time. These anti-social nomads are users,and abusers. Period.
Don't for a second be taken in by them,and by the same token don't take them in.

Penberthy says a pro-active approach is needed. I agree,and it should be thus;
You're not wanted,you're not welcome,and any attempts to pitch here will be immediately jumped upon by the Police force that is funded by people who actually contribute to our society,by paying their taxes !

We should care about 'travellers' welfare,and rights as they care for ours;
Not a jot !”

“Hands up first.....I don't like Travellers, I have seen the disgusting mess they always leave anywhere they go. However, we must get on the high ground here, give them a properly run transit site but come down hard on any breaches away from that site. Too many times we have seen them get away with actions that wouldn't be allowed from any other community.”

“They should be charged for the pitch and also pay council tax. If they leave it in a mess they should be charged for the clear up. Why are they treated as if they are above the law?”