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Wednesday, November 14, 2012
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I AM so fed up. How can the general public really get anything done?

The ongoing saga of saving our airport, which has so much support from the people of Plymouth, seems to culminate in the Herald (thank you) printing letters, but what gets done? In short – nothing.

I would be grateful if someone could tell me how we can actually get something done – it seems to me the decision was made months (if not years ago) and all we are doing now is paperwork to say that people did have a chance to speak. Rubbish!

(Ditto the incinerator at Devonport… but that's another matter!)

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  • Profile image for Foldart

    by Foldart

    Wednesday, November 14 2012, 6:43PM

    “Time will tell. It would be nice to see an airport in Plymouth again but the odds are long.”

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    by CharlieDodd

    Wednesday, November 14 2012, 5:09PM

    “WIKI-"In 2009, 157,933 passengers passed through the airport, a sharp increase on the 2008 total of 117,823 making Plymouth one of the only UK airports experiencing significant growth during the period"
    And yet it was still closed down, talk about killing a golden goose!
    I've tipped off BBC TV's Panorama to do some in-depth investigative journalism on the whole murky affair..”

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    by Dunthiel

    Wednesday, November 14 2012, 4:33PM

    “Perhaps not a fantasist, but you clearly lack anything resembling a factual understanding of the situation.

    It was viable and still would be - no argument here, this was identified by the council commissioned report on the airport.
    There was investor/commercial interest even before closure - a seven figure sum was placed on the table, but SHH asserted it was closing for redevelopment and turned this down.
    The runway can be extended - what's more, the passenger demand is there for a network of UK routes and holiday destinations within Europe, flown by aircraft which are quieter and more fuel efficient that the old Dash 8s.

    Of course you can continue to believe your own opinion is correct, but I prefer to base mine on facts and figures, not ill informed here-say.”

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    by Foldart

    Wednesday, November 14 2012, 4:06PM

    “@Matt2112 - Nor am I a fantasist. IF it was viable and IF money could be found and IF they could get the licences for the routes to useful places and IF they could extend the runway to take viable holiday-sized aircraft then maybe, but I don't see that happening.

    The airports history is no indicator of present viability. It does indicate that some people feel that Plymouth should have one despite the lack of council, government or entrepreneurial interest.”

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    by Matt2112

    Wednesday, November 14 2012, 3:42PM

    “You never believed it was viable, despite it being viable for just about 80 years?
    You don't believe in the Viable meetings whose purposes included sourcing such funding?
    I'm afraid it's entirely defeatist, to say that you won't believe it's viable until it has funding, while blowing off any attempts to seek such funding. It's circular logic to support your immovable conjecture.”

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    by timplymouth

    Wednesday, November 14 2012, 3:33PM

    “It's all about the money. If it wouldn't cost anything they would do it. If you want the airport to reopen your best bet is to buy a euromillions ticket and send it to viable. They can then buy out SHH and get on with it.”

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    by Foldart

    Wednesday, November 14 2012, 3:16PM

    “I was never defeatist simply because I never believed the airport was a 'viable' option. When I see backers, who have committed money to the venture, moving in then I will be amazed. Gobsmacked even. Until then, it's a dead duck.
    And, it's true, I've never been to a Viable meeting or Disneyland or other make believe land.”

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    by BarryBT

    Wednesday, November 14 2012, 2:58PM

    “Plymouth has an airport..?”

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    by Nevman

    Wednesday, November 14 2012, 2:35PM

    “And how exactly do UKIP (or your other pals, the BNP) priopose to return the airport to service over the heads of SHH, CharlieBob? Details, please, not vague propaganda.”

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    by Matt2112

    Wednesday, November 14 2012, 2:18PM

    “I am dumbfounded at the defeatist attitudes of some people such as Foldart below. Almost as much as I am at the fact that this situation arose in the first place.

    It is as plain as day that the sale of the airport land is a get-rich-quick scheme for both SHH and PCC at the expense of a vital peice of infrastructure and a blow to our future economy.
    Even if the airport is currently not viable as a business (it has been for many decades and will be again) it cannot be allowed to be sold off to line a private companies pockets or to build more homes to house tax-avoiding benefit scroungers.

    The council see it as a windfall and a chance to increase the number of council tax payers, but in reality that windfall will run out in no time and that tax isn't going to be generated if the people living there don't have jobs.
    To SHH however it's merely a fortune on a plate, a priceless antique they discovered in their attic, although this one happens to serve a vital role in our econo
    These are the people deciding to cut Plymouth off from the rest of the country for good.”

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